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		<title>By: A Humble Chestnut Roaster</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2010/02/what-have-you-ever-done-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-164151</link>
		<dc:creator>A Humble Chestnut Roaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Choose our representatives the same way we choose our juries. Part of citizen duty. Eradicate the party system, and the electoral fiefdoms entirely. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s been tried anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Choose our representatives the same way we choose our juries. Part of citizen duty. Eradicate the party system, and the electoral fiefdoms entirely. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s been tried anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2010/02/what-have-you-ever-done-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-163948</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We get what we deserve!
To change the system, every TD should serve a maximum of two terms and then they are out for ever and an immediate family member should not be allowed to stand in their stead. This would result in the RIGHT people standing for election.
Any comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We get what we deserve!<br />
To change the system, every TD should serve a maximum of two terms and then they are out for ever and an immediate family member should not be allowed to stand in their stead. This would result in the RIGHT people standing for election.<br />
Any comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; Ed Walsh, electoral reform and the talents of our pols.</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2010/02/what-have-you-ever-done-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-126216</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; Ed Walsh, electoral reform and the talents of our pols.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who could serve in government is raised today by Dr. Ed Walsh in the Irish Times. We&#8217;ve been here before of course, indeed I suspect I&#8217;ve made annual visits to this topic over the past 4 years and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] who could serve in government is raised today by Dr. Ed Walsh in the Irish Times. We&#8217;ve been here before of course, indeed I suspect I&#8217;ve made annual visits to this topic over the past 4 years and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; Shuffling the Deckchairs on&#8230;.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; Shuffling the Deckchairs on&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had separately about the importance of shuffling ministers. What does it really matter which rural solicitor gets the position at Enterprise, Trade and Employment? However our media, including this blog, will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had separately about the importance of shuffling ministers. What does it really matter which rural solicitor gets the position at Enterprise, Trade and Employment? However our media, including this blog, will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sos</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2010/02/what-have-you-ever-done-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-124094</link>
		<dc:creator>sos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

I was really majoring on the issue of too many Cabinet Ministers, not overall Dail representation.

At the moment, as far as I can gather, the latter is controlled by a section of the Constitution.

Notwithstanding that, a reduction in real terms is needed; maybe to, say, two per county = 52.

With a maximum of Six Cabinet Ministers, who would vacate all constituency affairs while in the Cabinet,  duplication &amp;overlap might be eliminated, leading to better &amp; more efficient decision-taking.

In answer to your comment about food &amp; energy. Both are products of Natural Resources, thus, as they are both answerable to the same Minister, any conflict can be sorted out at a much lower level.

The component parts, which are presently controlled by a plethora of ministers, would, in future, be managed by professionals from the Civil Service, with suitable qualifications.

The balance of elected TDs would remain in their constituencies and manage in the manner of local councillors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I was really majoring on the issue of too many Cabinet Ministers, not overall Dail representation.</p>
<p>At the moment, as far as I can gather, the latter is controlled by a section of the Constitution.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding that, a reduction in real terms is needed; maybe to, say, two per county = 52.</p>
<p>With a maximum of Six Cabinet Ministers, who would vacate all constituency affairs while in the Cabinet,  duplication &amp;overlap might be eliminated, leading to better &amp; more efficient decision-taking.</p>
<p>In answer to your comment about food &amp; energy. Both are products of Natural Resources, thus, as they are both answerable to the same Minister, any conflict can be sorted out at a much lower level.</p>
<p>The component parts, which are presently controlled by a plethora of ministers, would, in future, be managed by professionals from the Civil Service, with suitable qualifications.</p>
<p>The balance of elected TDs would remain in their constituencies and manage in the manner of local councillors.</p>
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		<title>By: EWI</title>
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		<dc:creator>EWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I most certainly wasn’t thinking of the professional qualifications of those who might be selected to serve in such office, because the ‘right qualifications’ are pretty thin on the ground in either Dail or Seanad Eireann.&lt;/i&gt;

The &quot;right qualifications&quot;, you say? 

I think that they&#039;re election by the voters, nothing more, nothing less. Anything else is (to put it mildly) undemocratic and reeks of middle-class elitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I most certainly wasn’t thinking of the professional qualifications of those who might be selected to serve in such office, because the ‘right qualifications’ are pretty thin on the ground in either Dail or Seanad Eireann.</i></p>
<p>The &#8220;right qualifications&#8221;, you say? </p>
<p>I think that they&#8217;re election by the voters, nothing more, nothing less. Anything else is (to put it mildly) undemocratic and reeks of middle-class elitism.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sos, one TD per 100,000 adults would work out at about 27/29 TDs. from that you&#039;d have to about half it to get the poll for the government and opposition so say 16 government TDS and 13 opposition and from that 16 you would be selecting your ministers. You have to allow for some reasonable degree of turnover at each election given the average lifespan of someone being a TD So you&#039;re looking at probably 5/6 newbies each election and perhaps up to 10, you can&#039;t have them be ministers on day 1 so out of the 16 government TDs only 12 would be eligible to be ministers. So in effect almost all would be ministers, and who exactly is going to scrutinise legalisation?

As for 6 ministries? I agree that we&#039;ve way too many juniors (and why are they so often addressed by the media as &quot;minister&quot;?, they aren&#039;t so they shouldn&#039;t be) but 6 ministries is lunacy. What is the minister for Natural Resources going to prioritise in a conflict between food and energy?

The public don&#039;t elect people who are good managers, why do you think they would do so if the numbers were smaller?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sos, one TD per 100,000 adults would work out at about 27/29 TDs. from that you&#8217;d have to about half it to get the poll for the government and opposition so say 16 government TDS and 13 opposition and from that 16 you would be selecting your ministers. You have to allow for some reasonable degree of turnover at each election given the average lifespan of someone being a TD So you&#8217;re looking at probably 5/6 newbies each election and perhaps up to 10, you can&#8217;t have them be ministers on day 1 so out of the 16 government TDs only 12 would be eligible to be ministers. So in effect almost all would be ministers, and who exactly is going to scrutinise legalisation?</p>
<p>As for 6 ministries? I agree that we&#8217;ve way too many juniors (and why are they so often addressed by the media as &#8220;minister&#8221;?, they aren&#8217;t so they shouldn&#8217;t be) but 6 ministries is lunacy. What is the minister for Natural Resources going to prioritise in a conflict between food and energy?</p>
<p>The public don&#8217;t elect people who are good managers, why do you think they would do so if the numbers were smaller?</p>
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		<title>By: sos</title>
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		<dc:creator>sos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veronica, as always, cuts through the flimflam and exposes the soft underbelly that is Irish politcs.

The reality is that Dail Eireann &amp; Seanad Eireann are grossly over-manned. 

One TD per 100,000 of adult population is more than sufficient for this small, open, island economy.

There will never be efficiency as long as there is overlap in the allocation of responsibilities to the various Ministries. 

The constant re-shuffles and awards of Junior Ministries militate against any possibility of an orderly Administration.

Six Ministries (Including a Taoiseach - as Foreign Affairs Minister ) would make an ideal management Team. 

After all; what is there that requires these legions of ministers?

- Beyond Justice (including Defense); Finance; Communications; Natural Resources and Human Resources?

All other administrative functions could be managed by suitably competent  professional civil servants.

Think Small: Simple: Efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veronica, as always, cuts through the flimflam and exposes the soft underbelly that is Irish politcs.</p>
<p>The reality is that Dail Eireann &amp; Seanad Eireann are grossly over-manned. </p>
<p>One TD per 100,000 of adult population is more than sufficient for this small, open, island economy.</p>
<p>There will never be efficiency as long as there is overlap in the allocation of responsibilities to the various Ministries. </p>
<p>The constant re-shuffles and awards of Junior Ministries militate against any possibility of an orderly Administration.</p>
<p>Six Ministries (Including a Taoiseach &#8211; as Foreign Affairs Minister ) would make an ideal management Team. </p>
<p>After all; what is there that requires these legions of ministers?</p>
<p>- Beyond Justice (including Defense); Finance; Communications; Natural Resources and Human Resources?</p>
<p>All other administrative functions could be managed by suitably competent  professional civil servants.</p>
<p>Think Small: Simple: Efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

I don&#039;t want to be flippant, but I think a lot of women can&#039;t be bothered with mainstream politics because they have better things to do with their time. 

That said, personality type is arguably much more important than gender in making the choice to enter public life. I&#039;m not aware of any studies that show that women behave substantially differently to men when it comes to exercising power, which makes a nonsense of all this &#039;gender quota&#039; insanity. 

The number of women elected to the Dail has remained around the 20 mark in the past four elections since 1992 (22 in the 2002 and 2007 elections) but at least a dozen or more of these female Teachtai fall into the &#039;family business&#039; category in that they either have a close relationship to someone who blazed the political trail before them (husband, father or brother) or come from what might be termed political families. All part of the &#039;skills to get the job&#039; I reckon, which as you point out isn&#039;t the same thing as having &quot;the skills to do the job&quot;.

But I think you&#039;re way too charitable in suggesting that &quot;we see the Oireachtas make mistakes all too often because it lacks a broad enough representative base to know when it is being conned&quot;. I&#039;m afraid I&#039;d attach considerably more weight to the posession of some altogether less flattering attributes exhibited by our political class that account for the bad decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to be flippant, but I think a lot of women can&#8217;t be bothered with mainstream politics because they have better things to do with their time. </p>
<p>That said, personality type is arguably much more important than gender in making the choice to enter public life. I&#8217;m not aware of any studies that show that women behave substantially differently to men when it comes to exercising power, which makes a nonsense of all this &#8216;gender quota&#8217; insanity. </p>
<p>The number of women elected to the Dail has remained around the 20 mark in the past four elections since 1992 (22 in the 2002 and 2007 elections) but at least a dozen or more of these female Teachtai fall into the &#8216;family business&#8217; category in that they either have a close relationship to someone who blazed the political trail before them (husband, father or brother) or come from what might be termed political families. All part of the &#8216;skills to get the job&#8217; I reckon, which as you point out isn&#8217;t the same thing as having &#8220;the skills to do the job&#8221;.</p>
<p>But I think you&#8217;re way too charitable in suggesting that &#8220;we see the Oireachtas make mistakes all too often because it lacks a broad enough representative base to know when it is being conned&#8221;. I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;d attach considerably more weight to the posession of some altogether less flattering attributes exhibited by our political class that account for the bad decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veronica, I&#039;m sure a healthy portion of those teachers and lawyers are represented in FG and Lab. I do wonder at the low number of publicans but it is possible that some such as John Moloney TD who has a number of business interests including publican and undertaker might have designated themselves under the more general business title rather than publican.

Again as Cathal notes &quot;There is no correct profession, though some areas are significantly underrepresented in irish politics like engineering and science.&quot; my point being that we see the Oireachtas make mistakes all too often because it lacks a broad enough representative base to know when it is being conned. Simon has referred to this before when gender quotas are proposed, the problem for me isn&#039;t the lack of women in politics but the lack of people. More teachers and lawyers simply because they are women won&#039;t properly leaven this bread. And the reason many women don&#039;t get involved are largely the same as the reasons engineers and folks with a 8-5 grind and a commute don&#039;t, they don&#039;t have the time to do the things that get you elected but which don&#039;t make you a useful member of parliament, and they don&#039;t see the point in applying for a job that you end up not being able to do because of the things you have to do to get it. The skills to get the job; aren&#039;t the skills to do the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veronica, I&#8217;m sure a healthy portion of those teachers and lawyers are represented in FG and Lab. I do wonder at the low number of publicans but it is possible that some such as John Moloney TD who has a number of business interests including publican and undertaker might have designated themselves under the more general business title rather than publican.</p>
<p>Again as Cathal notes &#8220;There is no correct profession, though some areas are significantly underrepresented in irish politics like engineering and science.&#8221; my point being that we see the Oireachtas make mistakes all too often because it lacks a broad enough representative base to know when it is being conned. Simon has referred to this before when gender quotas are proposed, the problem for me isn&#8217;t the lack of women in politics but the lack of people. More teachers and lawyers simply because they are women won&#8217;t properly leaven this bread. And the reason many women don&#8217;t get involved are largely the same as the reasons engineers and folks with a 8-5 grind and a commute don&#8217;t, they don&#8217;t have the time to do the things that get you elected but which don&#8217;t make you a useful member of parliament, and they don&#8217;t see the point in applying for a job that you end up not being able to do because of the things you have to do to get it. The skills to get the job; aren&#8217;t the skills to do the job.</p>
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