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Problems with the “they’ll pass it now that we’re f*cked” Yes-vote assumption

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You’d swear Lisbon wasn’t on the cards. It’s not in the papers.

I read Saturday’s Irish Times, it has one Lisbon article on page 8. Today’s Sunday Business Post has nothing. Looking at their website, The Sunday Times has a piece about the spending involved from private groups – not the politics though. The Tribune has something about Pat Cox being set for a big job if Lisbon passes, again, nothing actually about the vote on the Treaty. I haven’t seen the Sindo but a site search brings up zilch.

It’s just over a month before polling day, where are all the politicians (and subsequent coverage)?

I also read this post from Deaglan DeBreadan on the Irish Times’s Politics blog. Quoting someone in Leinster House, he wrote…

“Lisbon is a dead duck, a goner, not a hope in hell”. I protested that, surely the people would vote Yes out of sheer naked fear of making the economic situation even worse.

Nope, I was told by a highly-experienced (and pro-EU) Fianna Fáil backbencher. The farmers are voting against en bloc and don’t pay any attention to what their leaders are saying. (I should point out that the executive council of the Irish Farmers’ Association has voted unanimously to recommend a Yes to Lisbon.)

But surely the possibility of negative economic results will deter people from voting No a second time, I suggested? Another TD, from the Labour side, said he believed there was a “death-wish” among the electorate.

Interesting, I’m sure you’ll agree. What are we to make of the source’s assertion?

The problem with Lisbon for the media is the Treaty’s amazing abilities to get people to ignore it. It’s boring. Very boring. It was boring first time round and now it has reared its ugly head again so the boredom can be repeated. The arguements have been had time and again, people don’t really want to hear them again. The media throws it a bone now and then but avoids anything in depth, it can’t really anyway, it was all done last time ’round.

Politicians have to deal with that and a multitude of other problems. People don’t like them, they’re not popular, Fianna Fáil TDs especially risk doing more harm than good when speaking on the Treaty. Rural TDs are dealing with constituents over the REPs scheme, hospital services, jobs cuts and the continuing retoric from ‘D4 economists’. Of course, there’s also the proposed cuts in social welfare, the constant protests. NAMA. The Commission on Taxation Report (which the Union rep didn’t sign). The Unions and the crumbling social partnership. The continuing aftershocks from An Bord Snip. The Programme for Government. Backbenchers. The Greens’ members. The Opposition. Oh, and the budget trundling towards Leinster House from the horizon on course to smash into the coaltion.

In short, Lisbon is low on the “to-do list” so politicians are leaving it on the back burner. When politicians do that, the media have little option but to do the same, or at the very least, leave it to the op-ed pages. The question is, with that happening, could the establishment be in for another shock?

The No vote came out last time, the Yes vote didn’t. Post-Ganley it’s hard to tell what will happen the No side, but it’s equally hard to tell post-dawn-of-economic-crisis if the Yes vote will show up. I think this one will be a close run thing. Still going with Yes, but it’ll be nothing more than 60/40…

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9 Responses to “Problems with the “they’ll pass it now that we’re f*cked” Yes-vote assumption”

  1. # Comment by Simon McGarr Aug 23rd, 2009 22:08

    I think there needs to be just one more Yes campaign launched: Yes to Lisbon, but No to the Yes campaigns.

    The Yes side refused to acknowledge that there were reasons they lost last time, let alone examine what they were. So they’re repeating the same mistakes.

    Running the same campaign seems the most likely way to ensure the same result.

  2. # Comment by Betty Aug 23rd, 2009 22:08

    The papers are predicting a “victory” for Cowan if Lisbon passes–Cowan is planning to claim victory as he is convinced we will be scared into voting “yes” but this is the very same mistake that he made the last time , he hasn’t learned that his attitude was a major factor in the “no” vote. Cowan and his victory are irrelevant, his presence on a platform in Tullamore says it all , that is his level of competence, the man clearly has no idea of what the job of taoiseach entails, hopefully sufficient people will act responsibly and vote yes but it will be a close run thing. We can deal with Cowan and his “victory” later.

  3. # Comment by Betty Aug 23rd, 2009 22:08

    Simon—great minds!!!!!at exactly the same time.

  4. # Comment by steve white Aug 23rd, 2009 23:08

    perhaps saying ‘voting no is death wish’ is part of the problem

  5. # Comment by P O'Neill Aug 23rd, 2009 23:08

    Another problem is Cowen’s ingenious sales pitch for the hated NAMA — the European Commission and ECB are telling us to do it!

  6. # Comment by Allan Cavanagh Aug 23rd, 2009 23:08

    The biggest lie of all is the implication that Ireland will be ejected from the EU if it doesn’t vote the way European national governments want it to. It’s utter nonsense: for the EU to eject a member state would undermine the founding principle of a united Europe. There’s no way the EU will endanger its continued existence by initiating fragmentation.

  7. # Comment by Niall Aug 24th, 2009 00:08

    Allan, that’s a new one for me. Who said we’d be ejected?

  8. # Comment by Allan Cavanagh Aug 24th, 2009 12:08

    @Niall I’ve heard it implied in the swirling miasma of soundbites and press releases from Lisbon 1. I will keep my ear out for a specific example this time, if indeed it’s even discussed again before the vote!

  9. # Comment by Future Taoiseach Aug 26th, 2009 00:08

    I think a victory for the no camp is a possibility. Since Maastricht there are a solid 500,000 automatically in the no camp for EU referenda, so the lower the turnout the better for us. The question is the extent to which the additional 364,000 no voters from last year will continue to stand with us against Lisbon. I have a very strong sense that resentment over the race to the bottom and Irish Ferries-style shenanigans with respect to cheap-labour played a role last time and may actually play a bigger role this time, albeit subliminal and low-key. People are reluctant to admit concern about immigration, but it’s there. It’s not racism, it’s just a sense that we have been generous enough to others and have not considered our own national interests enough. Our leaders have also allowed the economy and health-service to suffer while they absorb themselves in foreign policy.

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