Comments on: Lisbon Assurances Agreed at Brussels Summit – Lisbon II Vote in ‘Early October’

By: Stephen Spillane - Referendum Commission to be set up Today: Lisbon 2 gets underway

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:53:04 +0000

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By: Lizzie

Lizzie — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:26:38 +0000

Don’t for a minute think I’m racist by the way, I have no problem with any culture but I try to fit in with the country’s culture and customs wherever I go and I only expect the same in return from anyone settling in our country.

By: Lizzie

Lizzie — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:20:20 +0000

Found the Algerian one – notice Ireland are in the agreeing parties at the beginning of the text (the arrogance stuns me), and it does have human transferring in the text. Mmm.

http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/cm68/6842/6842.pdf

By: Lizzie

Lizzie — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:15:25 +0000

I’ve just been listening to Nigel Farage and as he says, the promises they have made the Irish are not worth the paper they’re written on. I was sent a sinister link today, if true then one reason the EU are so hellbent on getting this Constitution through is the little, under reported matter of the EMP (Euro Mediterranean Project). They have allegedly already agreed that in 2010 when they arrogantly assume you will all have done as you’re told, they will take the surplus and poorer Islamic population and redistribute it among the EU countries. In return they will receive huge payouts (will we see any of it? LOL). I need to read up more about this. They will promise you anything – look at all the empty promises we in the UK have had broken.

And of course, the NWO needs to get a move on, I hear they want it all done and dusted by 2012 or thereabouts.

The whole of EU is praying and hoping that the Irish come through for us all – we were in Cyprus last time the referendum results came through and none of the Irish people where we were bought a drink for themselves, they were treated like heroes!

By: Niall

Niall — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:55:58 +0000

I doubt you read the Lisbon constitution Sean, since Lisbon doesn’t have one.

And what exactly is your point regarding articles 3-6, 120-126, 206 and 207 and 311?

The notion that Lisbon has any meaningful effect on your corporate tax rates is simply silly. What changes do you imagine Lisbon makes to the status quo in regards our corporate tax rates that would have US companies leaving within a month of Lisbon being passed.

By: Sean Murtagh

Sean Murtagh — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:50:15 +0000

Sorry Niall but I read the Lisbon Constitution and also more importantly I read Bunreacht na hEireann or the “Irish Constitution” as it is known in English and they are completly incompatably with each other! If you had a Rolls Royce would you awap it for a Lada? Anyway read artiles 3-6, 120-126, 206 and 207, 311and for your amusement read Protocol No 7 on Privileges and Immunities enjoyed by the EU. IT certainly is a transparent organisation!

By: Niall

Niall — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:50:38 +0000

Sean, our corporate tax rates were never in danger and as for increased co-operation on the part of other states in regards taxation, that didn’t even come in under Lisbon. The effect Lisbon had on it was to regulate it better. At the moment, you need a minimum of 8 states to get it going. The only change Lisbon makes is to increase it to 9.

If somebody told you otherwise, they were just scaremongering.

By: Sean Murtagh

Sean Murtagh — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:42:12 +0000

The functioning of the Union shall be founded on representive democracy; article 10.1
Giving constitutional recognition to the superiority of EU law means that the once sovereign EU member states (like ireland) formally surrender their national independence and democracy and become like provinces or regions of an EU superpower or superstate.
The constitution has been drafted by a convention of 105 presided over by Valery Giscard d’Estaing — the man who when president of France once accepted a bag of diamonds from the despotic and cannibalistic African ‘emperor’ Jean Bedel Bokassa.
Most of the 105 members of the convention that drew up this document were committed euro-federalists. They see an EU constitution as a further giant step towards the EU superpower or superstate they regard themselves as architects of.
Fine Gael’s John Bruton and Labour’s Proinsias de Rossa, were the two representatives from the Irish Dáil that sat on Giscard’s convention. A euro-federalist of the right and a euro-federalist of the left, these two individuals advocate the utmost possible extension of EU law-making by means of qualified majority vote (QMV) on the EU Council of Ministers.

Article 5 of the constitution make Irish citizens into citizens of the EU. One can only be a citizen of a state.

Article 6 proposes to give the new EU state the final power to decide what citizens’ rights are. It aims to do this by making the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, which was endorsed politically at the Nice EU summit in 2001, legally binding in EU law. This would entail a further huge extension of EU power, potentially affecting virtually every area of our lives.

Human rights cover everything — due legal process, trial by jury, freedom of speech and assembly, labour law, property rights, family law, succession, rights relating to children, marriage, migration, asylum, drugs, abortion, euthanasia etc.

The only reason for seeking to give the EU a human rights competence is the desire to turn it into a kind of state, in which the EU court, like a national Supreme Court, can have the final say on peoples’ rights.

The truth is that for the euro-centralisers the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights has more to do with power than rights.

The Court of justice of the EU shall include the court of justice, the general court and specialised courts. It shall ensure that in the interpretration and application of the treaties the law is observed

Democrats everywhere should sit up and take note of what the eurocrats are planning for them.

By: Sean Murtagh

Sean Murtagh — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:25:59 +0000

I voted No because of my concerns about corporate taxation; if that were to change and I believe it would under Lisbon despite what I am being told! The reality is that there would not be an American company (and they are the ones propping up the economy) left here within one month!

By: Niall

Niall — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:40:37 +0000

PS Is it a joke that whatever answer I choose on the Irish Election Poll, I get a message telling me to choose a valid answer?