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Who would lose out 2?

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This is the second in a series of posts looking at who would or would not keep their seats if an election was called now. With not much  local polling to go on this is entirely my opinion and probably wrong. If you have any ideas on it please drop a comment.

Galway West


Candidate   Party   1st Pref Share Quota   Count Status Seat

* Eamon O Cuiv    Fianna Fail Lozenge   9,645   17.51%   1.05   1   Made Quota   1
* Michael D Higgins    Labour Lozenge   6,086   11.05%   0.66   10   Made Quota   2
  Padraic McCormack    Fine Gael Lozenge   5,419   9.84%   0.59   12   Made Quota   3
* Noel Grealish    Progressive Democrats Lozenge   5,806   10.54%   0.63   13   Elected   4
* Frank Fahey    Fianna Fail Lozenge   5,854   10.63%   0.64   13   Elected   5

  Michael J Crowe2    Fianna Fail Lozenge   4,969   9.02%   0.54   (13)   Not Elected    
  Fidelma Healy Eames    Fine Gael Lozenge   3,904   7.09%   0.43   (11)   Eliminated    
  Niall O Brolchain    Green Lozenge   3,026   5.49%   0.33   (9)   Eliminated

Galway West is not going to buck the trend and keep Fianna Fail seats. Frank Fahey is going to lose his seat. Certainly not the most liked TD in the country his vote like the rest of the FF is going down. Eamon O’Cuiv’s vote is going to be strong as it is based in the Gaeltacht where he is very much liked. He will top the poll. The interesting question is what happens Grealish’s vote. He is being courted by many parties but a quick election might see him not choose a side. He was rumoured to be looking at FF but  I don’t think he is that stupid. he will lose some of the PD vote to FG but maintain some of his own personal vote. Fidelma Healy Eames certainly has a great chance of taking the 4th seat if she runs. The 5th seat will be a fight between Fianna Fail, Grelish and the Greens. O’Brolchain has a strong profile in Galway. Has tried to distance himself from the parliamentary party supporting FF. Which will hold him in good stead. Also the Greens performance in government has not been terrible, they have looked sane and some peoples worries of Greens=hippies might give a boost to O’Brolchain. Also most polls have seen Green Support to be stead. But i think Grealish could hold on to his seat. O’Brolchain will not get a seat in Galway East until Michael D retires. However if FF do the unthinkable and try running two candidates rather then the normal 3 Fahey might just be safe, but I don’t think so.

Verdict: FF Lab FG FG Ind


Galway East.

* Paul Connaughton    Fine Gael Lozenge   6,886   12.34%   0.62   8   Made Quota   1
  Michael Kitt2    Fianna Fail Lozenge   8,796   15.77%   0.79   8   Made Quota   2
  Ulick R Burke    Fine Gael Lozenge   5,149   9.23%   0.46   9   Made Quota   3
* Noel Treacy    Fianna Fail Lozenge   7,524   13.49%   0.67   9   Elected   4

* Joe Callanan    Fianna Fail Lozenge   5,817   10.43%   0.52   (9)   Not Elected    
  Tom McHugh    Fine Gael Lozenge   4,881   8.75%   0.44   (7)   Eliminated    
 

This seat could be interesting. Ciaran Cannon former leader of the PD’s is from here and has since joined the Fine Gael. I am guessing part of the reason he did this was the he was offered a place on the Fine Gael ticket. The question then is do FG run 3 or 4 candidates? They ran 4 last time with a lot of sweeping up done. But in the situation where they are ahead in the polls spreading their vote that thin could have a lot of downside. Another point is Ciaran Cannon. He certainly is not a major name, having lead the PD’s when it was already dead, but will he suffer for jumping ship? FG do have a good chance of taking the 3rd seat here especially if the Fianna Fail vote stays at home. I think if Ciaran Cannon can keep his PD/personnel vote and take some Fine Gael votes he can grab the 4th seat. But from who is the question? As both Kitt and Treacy have lost there minister for state jobs it will be a toss up between them.

Verdict: 3FG 1FF

Mayo.

* Enda Kenny    Fine Gael Lozenge   14,717   20.62%   1.24   1   Made Quota   1
* Michael Ring    Fine Gael Lozenge   11,412   15.99%   0.96   2   Made Quota   2
  John O’Mahony5    Fine Gael Lozenge   6,869   9.62%   0.58   8   Made Quota   3
  Dara Calleary    Fianna Fail Lozenge   7,225   10.12%   0.61   8   Elected   4
* Beverley Flynn    Non party/Independent Lozenge   6,779   9.50%   0.57   8   Elected   5

* John Carty2    Fianna Fail Lozenge   5,889   8.25%   0.49   (8)   Not Elected    
  Michelle Mulherin    Fine Gael Lozenge   5,428   7.60%   0.46   (7)   Eliminated    

The question here will be can Enda Kenny win not just 3 seats not just 4 seats but 5 seats? Crazy as it seems it is not impossible to imagine it. But don’t worry Enda is not going to win 5 seats. But 4? As Enda will be the de facto next Taoiseach he is going to have a large vote. Which means plenty of transfer goodness to spread around. Also Michael Ring will also poll highly. The Problem for FG may well be that the above candidates pull in to much of the vote and don’t spread it around. However Beverley Flynn might be in trouble. While she the huge personnel Flynn vote recent scandals will damage her and make her slightly less transfer friendly. But it will not be easy for Fine Gael. In 2007 they bucked the trend of the country in being so dominant here. Taking 53% of the vote.  There is not much left to take.  If managed right Fine Gael can sneak a somewhat amazing 4th seat out of here. But they need to manage it very well or Bev’s personnel vote will get her in. Dara Calleary should be safe enough if FF don’t overload the field.

Verdict FG4 FF1

Roscomman Leitrim South.

§ Frank Feighan    Fine Gael Lozenge   9,103   19.76%   0.79   4   Made Quota   1
° Michael Finneran    Fianna Fail Lozenge   9,982   21.66%   0.87   4   Made Quota   2
° Denis Naughten    Fine Gael Lozenge   8,928   19.38%   0.78   4   Elected   3

° John Ellis    Fianna Fail Lozenge   7,915   17.18%   0.69   (4)   Not Elected    
  John Kelly8    Non party/Independent Lozenge   4,539   9.85%   0.39   (3)   Eliminated    
 

Last time out it was the transfer of John Kelly that swung behind Denis Naughten to win him the seat knocking John Ellis out. John Ellis now a senator will be back and fighting in this constituency. But the downturn has hit here hard and FF will suffer. Fine Gael might be tempted to go for all three seats here. But I am not sure there is enough here for them. The last seat will be fight between the two FFers and if another Independent if one has a strong name. FF to take the seat on the transfers from which ever FF is eliminated first.

Verdict: No change FG2 FF1

Sligo Leitrim North

§ Eamon Scanlon    Fianna Fail Lozenge   9,258   23.18%   0.93   5   Made Quota   1
° John Perry    Fine Gael Lozenge   7,910   19.81%   0.79   5   Made Quota   2
° Jimmy Devins2    Fianna Fail Lozenge   7,102   17.78%   0.71   5   Elected   3

  Michael Comiskey    Fine Gael Lozenge   4,937   12.36%   0.49   (5)   Not Elected    
  Sean MacManus    Sinn Fein Lozenge   4,684   11.73%   0.47   (4)   Eliminated    
 

This seat could become very interesting. I got a feeling that we could see Marian Harkin back from Europe in this race. Which would be a big dent in FG chances of taking the seat hoovering up much of dissatisfied voters. However if she does not run. FG will be fighting hard for the last seat. Sinn Fein too could produce a good run in this seat probably taking some vote off FF. Indeed I am going to go out on a limb here and say that they are going to take the last seat. Just piping FG.

Verdict: 1FF 1 FG 1SF

Total including last

Fine Gael on 21 (+5)

Fianna Fail on 9 (-9)

Labour 4 (+2)

Sinn Fein 1 (+1)

Ind 2 (-)

All figures from the excellent Electionsireland.org

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8 Responses to “Who would lose out 2?”

  1. # Comment by Keith May 11th, 2009 12:05

    I would say there’s an outside chance of a decent Labour candidate being pulled in by FG in Mayo. Four FG TDs might be just too much to pull off. My namesake might be in with a shot ;-)

  2. # Comment by Simon May 11th, 2009 13:05

    Ya Keith Martin could have a very good chance. And seems to be pushed abit. But Labour have never polled strongly in Mayo. Not even fielding a candidate during the spring tide. So it would be a big ask. Also as Labour seems to be attacking FG alot they might not be tons of transfers.

  3. # Comment by Mark May 11th, 2009 15:05

    Very good analysis Simon, I agree with pretty much everything you said. One request, use the spellchecker – you spelled too with a zero! :D The spellchecker is there in WP! lol… please?

  4. # Comment by Simon May 11th, 2009 16:05

    Mark that was just to make sure people are awake. :) Wp spellchecker misses t0o by the way type it in wordpress editor yourself it is hard to spot.

  5. # Comment by Dan Sullivan May 11th, 2009 16:05

    I don’t think 4 for FG in Mayo is a realistic prospect even with the polls as they are at the moment. That said I wouldn’t rule out FF ending up just the one seat there.

  6. # Comment by Simon May 11th, 2009 16:05

    Dan that was more or less my thinking. But I think FF not getting 2 is likely and the only ones able to to take it off them is FG as Labour or SF not strong there. It isn’t so much that FG win 1 more but FF lose 1.

  7. # Comment by Keith Gaughan May 12th, 2009 19:05

    I can’t see Sligo/North Leitrim going quite like that. Keep in mind that such a result would leave practically all the TD’s based around Sligo/Strandhill, and that’s not going to happen. Sean MacManus is too much of a local urban candidate for that area to grab votes from Scanlon where he’s likely to drop his lion’s share: the rural part of the constituency. I see Harkin coming back, with a tight fight for the second seat between Perry and Scanlon, with whoever loses that fight getting the third. Whatever the outcome, FF lose a seat.

  8. # Comment by Delphinian May 24th, 2009 20:05

    Sligo-Nth Leitrim

    Strange constituency this. current deputies Perry and Scanlon are both from the ‘small’ town of Ballymote in Sth Sligo. Devins is the closest to a ‘town’ deputy that we have. I can see the Perry possibly topping the pole and his transfers may bring up the votes of other FG candidates. It is unlikely that any candidate from Nth Leitrim will get elected. Harkin will not come back, but will instead stay in Europe. MacManus will not get in but his transfers may decided the seats. Scanlon may get transfers from Perry as Sth Sligo constituents are quite ‘local’. Devins will hold a good amount of his vote, but may have been affected by his original stance regarding the cancer services at Sligo hospital (though he has since changed his mind – cost him the junior ministry). The wild card this time round could be Bree who will run as an independent. His profile has gone up further in Sligo now, evere since a major fight with the much disliked county manager and will likely top both borough and council polls in local elections. Bree may well take some of MacManus’s votes and will alright on transfers esp from left wing candidates. The fact he will be running as an independent will also bring further votes in. I see the result being 1FF, 1FG and a toss up between FF and Bree for the final seat. (FF will only run 2 candidates, which should give them the edge over FG’s 3).

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