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		<title>By: RANDOM</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/05/and-were-off-2/comment-page-1/#comment-118674</link>
		<dc:creator>RANDOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vicar of Bray has responded to Mick Glynn

http://thevicarofbray.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/a-reply-the-curious-incident-of-the-post-on-mick-glynns-youtube-wonderspot/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vicar of Bray has responded to Mick Glynn</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; The Web Roundup is Here, Posters, Pamphlets and Lovely Girls</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/05/and-were-off-2/comment-page-1/#comment-118397</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; The Web Roundup is Here, Posters, Pamphlets and Lovely Girls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last web roundup Suzy brought you news, via Stephen Spillane, of the conversation between the Green Party, Deirdre de Burca and twitter (in a nutshell; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the last web roundup Suzy brought you news, via Stephen Spillane, of the conversation between the Green Party, Deirdre de Burca and twitter (in a nutshell; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/05/and-were-off-2/comment-page-1/#comment-118385</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Peter, but I was basing my understanding of the exchange on what is on Stephen&#039;s post which Suzy had linked to. And that starts with your tweet that &quot;twitter is supposed to be an interactive service NOT an announcement service&quot;.

I simply think it, twitter, is what someone chooses to make of it. Will they get more out of it if they interact more? Sure. But do people necessary have the time to do that? That&#039;s up to them isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Peter, but I was basing my understanding of the exchange on what is on Stephen&#8217;s post which Suzy had linked to. And that starts with your tweet that &#8220;twitter is supposed to be an interactive service NOT an announcement service&#8221;.</p>
<p>I simply think it, twitter, is what someone chooses to make of it. Will they get more out of it if they interact more? Sure. But do people necessary have the time to do that? That&#8217;s up to them isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: peter donegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter donegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan 

sorry mate.... but what was the question I asked in the first place? 

might I add that if any green party representative had come back to me and said &#039;hey peter, how can we help you... &#039; [eh recycling/ garden/ blog me?] I&#039;d have written a post on them and there super dooper recycled posters. Instead I got a bit of a personality :shock:  

This isn&#039;t about Deidres tweet [or lack of] Its the fact that I cant get an answer [STILL] from the people who act on behalf of the entire THE GREEN PARTY...

peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan </p>
<p>sorry mate&#8230;. but what was the question I asked in the first place? </p>
<p>might I add that if any green party representative had come back to me and said &#8216;hey peter, how can we help you&#8230; &#8216; [eh recycling/ garden/ blog me?] I&#8217;d have written a post on them and there super dooper recycled posters. Instead I got a bit of a personality <img src='http://www.irishelection.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about Deidres tweet [or lack of] Its the fact that I cant get an answer [STILL] from the people who act on behalf of the entire THE GREEN PARTY&#8230;</p>
<p>peter</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/05/and-were-off-2/comment-page-1/#comment-118373</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just on the DdB thing. I had this comment over on Stephen&#039;s but I thought I&#039;d post it here too not quite to support what Damian says but to add to it a little. If DdB uses twitter in a way that ends up as no good to her then that&#039;s her look out. I think her response on her blog is quite fair. 

http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter

And I had posted for the general election that sometimes people have unrealistic ideas about the availability that pols have during the 3/4 weeks of the campaign.

http://dansullivan.blogspot.com/2007/05/candidates-cant-have-time-for-everyone.html

There are plenty of people on twitter who are not there to interact with all and sundry which is one of the reason I presume why you can protect your updates. And I don&#039;t see anyone decrying that, nor do I see anyone having a problem with people sniping about others amongst their own grouping while not allowing them a right of reply. I expect there has been plenty of that around this instance. That&#039;s what the tech let&#039;s you do and so if it&#039;s for you then you use it that way. It doesn&#039;t mean everyone is required to do it.

Fact is that people will use this technology as they do others in a way that fits around them and what their priorities are. The point of an open model for a tool is supposed to be to to let each have their own way of working with it and not seeking after a homogenised &#039;our way or the highway&#039; approach. I think people need to move beyond condemning anyone who doesn&#039;t do as they do. Cries of &#039;noob&#039; however they are dressed up from a 14 year old playing BF2 is fine but you&#039;d expect better from adults. Or maybe we shouldn&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just on the DdB thing. I had this comment over on Stephen&#8217;s but I thought I&#8217;d post it here too not quite to support what Damian says but to add to it a little. If DdB uses twitter in a way that ends up as no good to her then that&#8217;s her look out. I think her response on her blog is quite fair. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter</a></p>
<p>And I had posted for the general election that sometimes people have unrealistic ideas about the availability that pols have during the 3/4 weeks of the campaign.</p>
<p><a href="http://dansullivan.blogspot.com/2007/05/candidates-cant-have-time-for-everyone.html" rel="nofollow">http://dansullivan.blogspot.com/2007/05/candidates-cant-have-time-for-everyone.html</a></p>
<p>There are plenty of people on twitter who are not there to interact with all and sundry which is one of the reason I presume why you can protect your updates. And I don&#8217;t see anyone decrying that, nor do I see anyone having a problem with people sniping about others amongst their own grouping while not allowing them a right of reply. I expect there has been plenty of that around this instance. That&#8217;s what the tech let&#8217;s you do and so if it&#8217;s for you then you use it that way. It doesn&#8217;t mean everyone is required to do it.</p>
<p>Fact is that people will use this technology as they do others in a way that fits around them and what their priorities are. The point of an open model for a tool is supposed to be to to let each have their own way of working with it and not seeking after a homogenised &#8216;our way or the highway&#8217; approach. I think people need to move beyond condemning anyone who doesn&#8217;t do as they do. Cries of &#8216;noob&#8217; however they are dressed up from a 14 year old playing BF2 is fine but you&#8217;d expect better from adults. Or maybe we shouldn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Suzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for inclusion on the press list Damian and I hope to be able to attend an event in the next few weeks. 

On the Youth Media in Europe yes I know about it and was involved in meeting the student pol corrs and explaining a bit about blogging etc.. (Yes I saw all that floor sitting with laptops and groaned a bit from the sofa!)

You can find further information on the project on their blog http://youthmediaforeurope.blogspot.com/ but also on the site of the European Movement who are the organisers - http://europeanmovement.ie/index.php?id=7752 - the Project Manger&#039;s details are at bottom of the page. 

Liveblogging from the Dáil - would the Commissioner allow a laptop into the public gallery? Or could we get a blogger into the Press Gallery - my kevlar jacket is on standby for the first person to do so! 

Seriously the bloggers tour/meet and greet combined with other events (devoid of the usual pay us 400 euro to go to our digital conference lark) would be a great way to see this develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for inclusion on the press list Damian and I hope to be able to attend an event in the next few weeks. </p>
<p>On the Youth Media in Europe yes I know about it and was involved in meeting the student pol corrs and explaining a bit about blogging etc.. (Yes I saw all that floor sitting with laptops and groaned a bit from the sofa!)</p>
<p>You can find further information on the project on their blog <a href="http://youthmediaforeurope.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://youthmediaforeurope.blogspot.com/</a> but also on the site of the European Movement who are the organisers &#8211; <a href="http://europeanmovement.ie/index.php?id=7752" rel="nofollow">http://europeanmovement.ie/index.php?id=7752</a> &#8211; the Project Manger&#8217;s details are at bottom of the page. </p>
<p>Liveblogging from the Dáil &#8211; would the Commissioner allow a laptop into the public gallery? Or could we get a blogger into the Press Gallery &#8211; my kevlar jacket is on standby for the first person to do so! </p>
<p>Seriously the bloggers tour/meet and greet combined with other events (devoid of the usual pay us 400 euro to go to our digital conference lark) would be a great way to see this develop.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/05/and-were-off-2/comment-page-1/#comment-118357</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzy, good luck with the campaign coverage. We&#039;ve added your email to our general pol cor email list so you should get everything campaign related from now on.

On tweetgate, I think Mark&#039;s got a pretty good line on it. We&#039;re more than open to advice on how to get the most out of the new communications technologies. Mostly, the blogging community have been constructively critical as we&#039;ve found our feet in this brave new world, and told us how we could get the most out of the technologies available.

IMO, some of the tweets on Sunday sounded like they were coming from the twitter police; &quot;if you don&#039;t @reply at least ten times a day then you&#039;re an idiot and shouldn&#039;t be using twitter&quot;, kind of thing.

The first post that set of a series of others, read: &quot;@greenparty_ie @deidredeburca should learn how to use twitter. It is supposed to be an interactive service. NOT an announcement service.&quot;

I think Mark&#039;s comments (http://blog.doneganlandscaping.com/2009/05/05/the-green-party-are-twits/#comments) and Deirdre&#039;s post (http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter) cover the ground quite well.

I&#039;d tend to say, different horses for different courses, but I think it&#039;s an area that we could develop further if we get round to putting on this bloggers&#039; tour of the Dail that Damien Mulley contacted us about (a follow up to the RTE visit).

Perhaps we could do a liveblog from the Dail (if they&#039;d let us) with some of our TDs and candidates on how politicians should be interacting? Any interest in that?

P.S. I saw a report on the Six One last week about the yoof media covering the euro elections with a fresh new angle for the kidz. (Just to emphasis the point, they had the young tyros sitting on the floor with their laptops, the way that all young people apparently love to sit.)

Do you know anything about it? Haven&#039;t had a peep of contact about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzy, good luck with the campaign coverage. We&#8217;ve added your email to our general pol cor email list so you should get everything campaign related from now on.</p>
<p>On tweetgate, I think Mark&#8217;s got a pretty good line on it. We&#8217;re more than open to advice on how to get the most out of the new communications technologies. Mostly, the blogging community have been constructively critical as we&#8217;ve found our feet in this brave new world, and told us how we could get the most out of the technologies available.</p>
<p>IMO, some of the tweets on Sunday sounded like they were coming from the twitter police; &#8220;if you don&#8217;t @reply at least ten times a day then you&#8217;re an idiot and shouldn&#8217;t be using twitter&#8221;, kind of thing.</p>
<p>The first post that set of a series of others, read: &#8220;@greenparty_ie @deidredeburca should learn how to use twitter. It is supposed to be an interactive service. NOT an announcement service.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Mark&#8217;s comments (<a href="http://blog.doneganlandscaping.com/2009/05/05/the-green-party-are-twits/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://blog.doneganlandscaping.com/2009/05/05/the-green-party-are-twits/#comments</a>) and Deirdre&#8217;s post (<a href="http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter</a>) cover the ground quite well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d tend to say, different horses for different courses, but I think it&#8217;s an area that we could develop further if we get round to putting on this bloggers&#8217; tour of the Dail that Damien Mulley contacted us about (a follow up to the RTE visit).</p>
<p>Perhaps we could do a liveblog from the Dail (if they&#8217;d let us) with some of our TDs and candidates on how politicians should be interacting? Any interest in that?</p>
<p>P.S. I saw a report on the Six One last week about the yoof media covering the euro elections with a fresh new angle for the kidz. (Just to emphasis the point, they had the young tyros sitting on the floor with their laptops, the way that all young people apparently love to sit.)</p>
<p>Do you know anything about it? Haven&#8217;t had a peep of contact about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough response from Deirdre, I think it shows how a lot of commentators sitting on the sidelines don&#039;t appreciate the stress and exhaustion that candidates go through at election time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough response from Deirdre, I think it shows how a lot of commentators sitting on the sidelines don&#8217;t appreciate the stress and exhaustion that candidates go through at election time</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; That is an Easy Segway, George Lee rumoured for Dublin South as Fine Gael Candidate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; That is an Easy Segway, George Lee rumoured for Dublin South as Fine Gael Candidate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 08:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WorldbyStorm</title>
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		<dc:creator>WorldbyStorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an absolutely brilliant interpretation of the Simons billboard. It&#039;s one of those things you know, you don&#039;t see it until it&#039;s mentioned and then you wonder how you couldn&#039;t have seen it in the first place. Kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an absolutely brilliant interpretation of the Simons billboard. It&#8217;s one of those things you know, you don&#8217;t see it until it&#8217;s mentioned and then you wonder how you couldn&#8217;t have seen it in the first place. Kudos!</p>
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