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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; MiCandidate.eu not to be used by RTE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; MiCandidate.eu not to be used by RTE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] online coverage of European Parliament Elections.  This follows confirmation from the Irish Times revealed here last month that they had &#8216;no arrangement of any sort&#8217; with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maman Poulet &#187; Roll up Roll up - MiCandidate.eu Pro going cheap</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-118282</link>
		<dc:creator>Maman Poulet &#187; Roll up Roll up - MiCandidate.eu Pro going cheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 12:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more on the MiCandidate.eu story see the comprehensive analysisand follow up from Mark Coughlan on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; MiCandidate - One Week On</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-118150</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; MiCandidate - One Week On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There were a number of interesting developments that stemmed from the analysis of MiCandidate.eu posted here last week. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spreading The Word &#171; 200 Words</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-118104</link>
		<dc:creator>Spreading The Word &#171; 200 Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you got an email from miCandidate, or a text message from Marty [...]</description>
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		<title>By: braz</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-117996</link>
		<dc:creator>braz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, I think you are missing Mark&#039;s main thrust, their are equivalent and free social media tools which will not cost the candidate an absurd amount. I don&#039;t see why you&#039;re suggesting that candidates need the skills of a digital agencies as the likes of blogger or wordpress are pretty usable for even novices. A one stop shop is a good idea but really it is an area that will be dealt with by each party in turn as we see the increasing realisation dawning on them. Sinn Fein and Fianna Fail are the two currently out ahead but the others I&#039;d imagine will soon follow.

I realise that you&#039;re coming from a Digital Media background / angle and unfortunately the pricing structures differ between local campaigns for the council and a commercial enterprise. My biggest problem with miCandidate is not particular the idea but the fee structure. It is entirely out of context for the domain. If we start charging politicians the `going rate&#039; well I see the need for more brown envelopes as they&#039;re certainly not going to be getting any pay rises in the current climate.

The traffic may be misleading as I&#039;d imagine all those interns they&#039;ve got hired are doing some testing as they go. Hell, I won&#039;t put it past them to hire Chinese gold diggers as click monkeys given the tone and approach they have already adopted.

I have told quite a number of candidates to avoid this service and will continue to do so. It needs to re-evaluate its pricing structure and the track record of its management does leave many many questions. 1000 euros saved and spent on posters or leaflets when combined with a blogger or wordpress site will garner the candidate more votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, I think you are missing Mark&#8217;s main thrust, their are equivalent and free social media tools which will not cost the candidate an absurd amount. I don&#8217;t see why you&#8217;re suggesting that candidates need the skills of a digital agencies as the likes of blogger or wordpress are pretty usable for even novices. A one stop shop is a good idea but really it is an area that will be dealt with by each party in turn as we see the increasing realisation dawning on them. Sinn Fein and Fianna Fail are the two currently out ahead but the others I&#8217;d imagine will soon follow.</p>
<p>I realise that you&#8217;re coming from a Digital Media background / angle and unfortunately the pricing structures differ between local campaigns for the council and a commercial enterprise. My biggest problem with miCandidate is not particular the idea but the fee structure. It is entirely out of context for the domain. If we start charging politicians the `going rate&#8217; well I see the need for more brown envelopes as they&#8217;re certainly not going to be getting any pay rises in the current climate.</p>
<p>The traffic may be misleading as I&#8217;d imagine all those interns they&#8217;ve got hired are doing some testing as they go. Hell, I won&#8217;t put it past them to hire Chinese gold diggers as click monkeys given the tone and approach they have already adopted.</p>
<p>I have told quite a number of candidates to avoid this service and will continue to do so. It needs to re-evaluate its pricing structure and the track record of its management does leave many many questions. 1000 euros saved and spent on posters or leaflets when combined with a blogger or wordpress site will garner the candidate more votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-117981</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

Free one-time-setup plugins on Wordpress (which the site designer can turn on and the user can ignore) will provide full integration with Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, YouTube and a thousand other social networking sites.  

Wordpress provides an equally good &quot;one stop shop&quot; (arguably a much better one), and gives the candidate far more control over their data and presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard</p>
<p>Free one-time-setup plugins on WordPress (which the site designer can turn on and the user can ignore) will provide full integration with Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, YouTube and a thousand other social networking sites.  </p>
<p>Wordpress provides an equally good &#8220;one stop shop&#8221; (arguably a much better one), and gives the candidate far more control over their data and presence.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard FitzGerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard FitzGerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

To explain my leaning towards MiCandidate (just) over a normal site, the best way for a politician to establish an online presence as you know is to use the social media tools, and update the content on an on going basis like flickr / facebook / twitter / YouTube etc as well as a hub (site for main content and contact info). This requires a lot of management time, and some skills which many digital agencies provide. However, I think it&#039;s fair to say, many politicians wouldn&#039;t spend the money on agencies or the time each tool requires. If they do choose MiCandidate, then they would have to interact with the various social media communities, but at least this is one service which is aiming to provide all a one stop shop and easy management.

Again, I agree that your findings show a complete lack of understanding of how to use Twitter and that nearly all of their services aren&#039;t perfect - but I think it&#039;s a strong idea, and maybe with a longer beta period where all feedback would be considered would have helped them.

They are certainly getting traffic - a &#039;hacker&#039; informs me the site has received 1,100 hits so far today!

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>To explain my leaning towards MiCandidate (just) over a normal site, the best way for a politician to establish an online presence as you know is to use the social media tools, and update the content on an on going basis like flickr / facebook / twitter / YouTube etc as well as a hub (site for main content and contact info). This requires a lot of management time, and some skills which many digital agencies provide. However, I think it&#8217;s fair to say, many politicians wouldn&#8217;t spend the money on agencies or the time each tool requires. If they do choose MiCandidate, then they would have to interact with the various social media communities, but at least this is one service which is aiming to provide all a one stop shop and easy management.</p>
<p>Again, I agree that your findings show a complete lack of understanding of how to use Twitter and that nearly all of their services aren&#8217;t perfect &#8211; but I think it&#8217;s a strong idea, and maybe with a longer beta period where all feedback would be considered would have helped them.</p>
<p>They are certainly getting traffic &#8211; a &#8216;hacker&#8217; informs me the site has received 1,100 hits so far today!</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-117952</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Richie. Thanks for the comment. Can you explain why you lean towards advising a candidate to pay for MiCandidate as opposed to paying for a website, please?

I too would commend an Irish company attempting get politicians involved in social media, if they go about it the right way as a company (not even as a tech company). Even discounting their complete lack of understanding as to the way social media operates, the way they operate as a company is questionable - see The Irish Times false claim.

Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richie. Thanks for the comment. Can you explain why you lean towards advising a candidate to pay for MiCandidate as opposed to paying for a website, please?</p>
<p>I too would commend an Irish company attempting get politicians involved in social media, if they go about it the right way as a company (not even as a tech company). Even discounting their complete lack of understanding as to the way social media operates, the way they operate as a company is questionable &#8211; see The Irish Times false claim.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard FitzGerald</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-117951</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard FitzGerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark
Great analysis of the site and it&#039;s &#039;tools&#039;. The sales language they are using is different to the &#039;openness&#039; from social networks that we are used too, this may be because the target audience of politicans is different to the web savvy individuals usually targeted by web 2.0 start ups. 

I commend the attempt of an Irish company to provide politicans with a social media platform to reach a mass audience, even if there is evidence of a lack of understanding of both &#039;politics&#039; and &#039;social media tools highlighted above&#039;. 

You&#039;re analysis darkens the work of the micandidate people more so than it does the micandidate service. In answer to your question, I would just about lean towards advising a politician to sign up to a micandidate pro account over having a website made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark<br />
Great analysis of the site and it&#8217;s &#8216;tools&#8217;. The sales language they are using is different to the &#8216;openness&#8217; from social networks that we are used too, this may be because the target audience of politicans is different to the web savvy individuals usually targeted by web 2.0 start ups. </p>
<p>I commend the attempt of an Irish company to provide politicans with a social media platform to reach a mass audience, even if there is evidence of a lack of understanding of both &#8216;politics&#8217; and &#8216;social media tools highlighted above&#8217;. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re analysis darkens the work of the micandidate people more so than it does the micandidate service. In answer to your question, I would just about lean towards advising a politician to sign up to a micandidate pro account over having a website made.</p>
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		<title>By: braz</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2009/04/micandidateeu-the-full-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-117831</link>
		<dc:creator>braz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is me or are candidate details being somewhat made up as they go along ? I&#039;ve seen a number of entries on micandidate that don&#039;t seem to tally with what I know about candidates. I love the fact that a number of them are married when they are most definitely not!

One had to wonder about the content and if it is being made up or supplied by candidate&#039;s. Here is a great one from Limerick (http://www.micandidate.eu/candidate.aspx?idcandidate=2905) on Jim Long

-- Interesting Fact: I have a very keen interest in people watching. I like television and holidays in Kerry. --

It reads like this was put in by an intern, or possibly a Junior cert student!

I&#039;m glad the political grapevine has both major parties not supplying candidate details to miCandidate. I hear that both phones in Mount Street are being bombarded by those interns who have gotten the numbers of higher ups. Seems that it would be a quiet day when the miCandidate interns don&#039;t place at least 5 calls to said people requesting the information. I can&#039;t believe that they don&#039;t simply trawl the website and manually add it, especially given the shocking number of interns / monkeys that they seem to have involved in this scheme. I think the COOP or internship offices in the Dublin Universities might need to do some explaining about this down the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is me or are candidate details being somewhat made up as they go along ? I&#8217;ve seen a number of entries on micandidate that don&#8217;t seem to tally with what I know about candidates. I love the fact that a number of them are married when they are most definitely not!</p>
<p>One had to wonder about the content and if it is being made up or supplied by candidate&#8217;s. Here is a great one from Limerick (<a href="http://www.micandidate.eu/candidate.aspx?idcandidate=2905" rel="nofollow">http://www.micandidate.eu/candidate.aspx?idcandidate=2905</a>) on Jim Long</p>
<p>&#8211; Interesting Fact: I have a very keen interest in people watching. I like television and holidays in Kerry. &#8211;</p>
<p>It reads like this was put in by an intern, or possibly a Junior cert student!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad the political grapevine has both major parties not supplying candidate details to miCandidate. I hear that both phones in Mount Street are being bombarded by those interns who have gotten the numbers of higher ups. Seems that it would be a quiet day when the miCandidate interns don&#8217;t place at least 5 calls to said people requesting the information. I can&#8217;t believe that they don&#8217;t simply trawl the website and manually add it, especially given the shocking number of interns / monkeys that they seem to have involved in this scheme. I think the COOP or internship offices in the Dublin Universities might need to do some explaining about this down the line.</p>
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