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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99948</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t take Tubridy seriously when he says;
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I ran for Vice-President and Education Officer of the Students’ Union. While I found the election campaigning interesting, the real eye-opener came when I was elected and saw that there were things I could do to improve the lot of students;
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The entire purpose of a student union officer is to improve the lot of student and yet this guy is suprised when he discovers that!</description>
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I ran for Vice-President and Education Officer of the Students’ Union. While I found the election campaigning interesting, the real eye-opener came when I was elected and saw that there were things I could do to improve the lot of students;<br />
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The entire purpose of a student union officer is to improve the lot of student and yet this guy is suprised when he discovers that!</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Mulley</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99683</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Mulley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG, I&#039;m in agreement with EWI. Somewhere. Up there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG, I&#8217;m in agreement with EWI. Somewhere. Up there.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99648</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EWI,

Okay, it appears to have been funded by foreign money. But its theatre of operations was indigenous to Ireland. The University of Limerick is an indigenous Irish University even if it had relied heavily on foreign donations to build up its infrastructure.

Irish politicians will take none of this seriously whilst it doesn&#039;t either offer a threat or an opportunity they find tangible in their own real world terms. 

Obama&#039;s in another, larger, richer and vastly different social structure. Libertas delivered its bloody noses at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EWI,</p>
<p>Okay, it appears to have been funded by foreign money. But its theatre of operations was indigenous to Ireland. The University of Limerick is an indigenous Irish University even if it had relied heavily on foreign donations to build up its infrastructure.</p>
<p>Irish politicians will take none of this seriously whilst it doesn&#8217;t either offer a threat or an opportunity they find tangible in their own real world terms. </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s in another, larger, richer and vastly different social structure. Libertas delivered its bloody noses at home.</p>
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		<title>By: EWI</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99646</link>
		<dc:creator>EWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also much of the blogosphere was powered by anger at Bush with that source of “inspiration” gone what will happen.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s not much I can add to Mick Fealty&#039;s timely history lesson, which as an observer of many years of the growth of the US blogging scene I can endorse as a pretty accurate picture.

But I will say that Bush was merely one (pretty mediocre) politician. Believe me, there&#039;s plenty of wingnuts left to come to grips with. They haven&#039;t gone away, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also much of the blogosphere was powered by anger at Bush with that source of “inspiration” gone what will happen.</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s not much I can add to Mick Fealty&#8217;s timely history lesson, which as an observer of many years of the growth of the US blogging scene I can endorse as a pretty accurate picture.</p>
<p>But I will say that Bush was merely one (pretty mediocre) politician. Believe me, there&#8217;s plenty of wingnuts left to come to grips with. They haven&#8217;t gone away, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: EWI</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99644</link>
		<dc:creator>EWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Whether or not you think Libertas was out to do good or bad, it was an audacious (and indigenous)&lt;/i&gt;

Libertas is &quot;indigenous&quot;, Mick? 

I - and a f***ing load of other people - would take great exception to this description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whether or not you think Libertas was out to do good or bad, it was an audacious (and indigenous)</i></p>
<p>Libertas is &#8220;indigenous&#8221;, Mick? </p>
<p>I &#8211; and a f***ing load of other people &#8211; would take great exception to this description.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99640</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the joke always seemed to refer to someone sitting in an office rather than walking down the street. I think it&#039;s the dark suit that is key! I think the full line is &quot;Doing a good job here is like pissing yourself in a dark suit. It gives you a warm feeling but nobody notices&quot;

Simon, I don&#039;t deny Guido&#039;s readership and impact but that doesn&#039;t mean all of us are looking to make an impact on the same way. Nor should we be. Different tools for different goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the joke always seemed to refer to someone sitting in an office rather than walking down the street. I think it&#8217;s the dark suit that is key! I think the full line is &#8220;Doing a good job here is like pissing yourself in a dark suit. It gives you a warm feeling but nobody notices&#8221;</p>
<p>Simon, I don&#8217;t deny Guido&#8217;s readership and impact but that doesn&#8217;t mean all of us are looking to make an impact on the same way. Nor should we be. Different tools for different goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also if I pissed in my pants walking down the street would you notice me?? yes. If I walked down the street without piss in my pants. would you notice me ? No

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also if I pissed in my pants walking down the street would you notice me?? yes. If I walked down the street without piss in my pants. would you notice me ? No</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.irishelection.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guido a one man show gains more readership ( i think) then commentisfree with multiple writters and loads of money behind it. With a national paper behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guido a one man show gains more readership ( i think) then commentisfree with multiple writters and loads of money behind it. With a national paper behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99630</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, Guido stressed the &#039;be partisan, be controversial&#039; two years ago at the previous conference ye organised. It is the way to drive readership for sure. But ultimately it seems to me to be like that joke about taking a leak in dark suit, it might you a nice warm feeling for a while but few others will notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, Guido stressed the &#8216;be partisan, be controversial&#8217; two years ago at the previous conference ye organised. It is the way to drive readership for sure. But ultimately it seems to me to be like that joke about taking a leak in dark suit, it might you a nice warm feeling for a while but few others will notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2008/11/internet-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-99627</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan

&quot;...it didn’t require Libertas to be directly guiding things.&quot;

Ba sin é go díreach! It&#039;s that &#039;investment in conversations&#039; I mentioned in the IT piece. You can say what you like about the site, but David understands the the value of those conversations, and Naoise (I suspect) had the strategic nouse to put it to good use with the press.

Whether or not you think Libertas was out to do good or bad, it was an audacious (and indigenous) use of the net for political ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;it didn’t require Libertas to be directly guiding things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ba sin é go díreach! It&#8217;s that &#8216;investment in conversations&#8217; I mentioned in the IT piece. You can say what you like about the site, but David understands the the value of those conversations, and Naoise (I suspect) had the strategic nouse to put it to good use with the press.</p>
<p>Whether or not you think Libertas was out to do good or bad, it was an audacious (and indigenous) use of the net for political ends.</p>
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