Comments on: Cowen Under Attack from the Opposition http://www.irishelection.com/2008/08/cowen-under-attack-from-the-opposition/ Coverage of Irish Politics, News and Current Affairs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:43:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: greenboil http://www.irishelection.com/2008/08/cowen-under-attack-from-the-opposition/comment-page-1/#comment-80385 greenboil Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:27:35 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/?p=3456#comment-80385 Regardless of Cleopatra, what we don't want is a repeat of Blair's new world Labour. When are people going to learn? The developed world hangs on the gold standard threads of a few very wealthy, very greedy, immoral and unscrupulous people. These people have reincarnated themselves over the ages. They control world world money markets, they control debt, they control politicians. Get real, market led democracy does not serve the interests of the many but of the few. It is only by coming up with an alternative that allows the people to flourish within any given community that has some moral structure at its base. Compassion has existed for centuries (we know this from how people buried their dead). All the different tried and tested politic has had its problems. The world needs to get rid of spin and reacting and advocate bringing back real thinking. Put the genuine back into politics. Also you seriously rich people, there must be some moral individuals amongst you who will lead by example by paying your tax like everyone else. The because 'I'm worth it' is indeed getting tired. On that point I agree. Freud would turn in his grave at how his ideas on unconscious desire (born from a genuine need to treat people with serious mental distress) have been used to propagate the most selfish of human desires, that of making lots of money. Regardless of Cleopatra, what we don’t want is a repeat of Blair’s new world Labour. When are people going to learn? The developed world hangs on the gold standard threads of a few very wealthy, very greedy, immoral and unscrupulous people. These people have reincarnated themselves over the ages. They control world world money markets, they control debt, they control politicians. Get real, market led democracy does not serve the interests of the many but of the few. It is only by coming up with an alternative that allows the people to flourish within any given community that has some moral structure at its base. Compassion has existed for centuries (we know this from how people buried their dead). All the different tried and tested politic has had its problems. The world needs to get rid of spin and reacting and advocate bringing back real thinking. Put the genuine back into politics. Also you seriously rich people, there must be some moral individuals amongst you who will lead by example by paying your tax like everyone else. The because ‘I’m worth it’ is indeed getting tired. On that point I agree. Freud would turn in his grave at how his ideas on unconscious desire (born from a genuine need to treat people with serious mental distress) have been used to propagate the most selfish of human desires, that of making lots of money.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.irishelection.com/2008/08/cowen-under-attack-from-the-opposition/comment-page-1/#comment-79846 Veronica Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:37:32 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/?p=3456#comment-79846 Am I alone in feeling mounting frustration with the main opposition parties and the complete absence of any alternative policy ideas emanating from them? Instead, they rely solely on personal attacks on members of the government. Would someone please tell them this is not effective politics? Evidence: the results of the last two general elections. Fine Gael and Labour are like two children on either end of a political see saw, constantly moving up and down but going nowhere. As for these abstruse references to Cleopatra's nose and the scattering of googled literary references politicians tend to litter their speeches with these days, presumably to try and make themselves sound well-read or intelligent or both - though thanks be to heaven they've let up on Humpty Dumpty and Alice in Wonderland for a while - it's not clever and it just sounds contrived and trivial. We're not stupid, us ordinary folk out there. We know there is an international crisis and we also know that as a small open economy Ireland will take the brunt of it. Yes, the government have a lot to answer for and I for one have little sympathy with them. What matters now is how they respond to the difficulties we are in - I think that is what most people care about, especially those who have lost their jobs or who can't get any jobs or who are facing huge hikes in energy and transport costs and their mortgages and are genuinely worried about putting bread on the table for the next couple of years. I suspect that like most people I'd like to hear what alternatives ideas/policies might be purused to get us through the tough times ahead in some sort of reasonable shape, and some sort of constructive intelligent critique of existing government policies, rather than a pseudo intellectual treatise on Cleopatra's nose. Am I alone in feeling mounting frustration with the main opposition parties and the complete absence of any alternative policy ideas emanating from them? Instead, they rely solely on personal attacks on members of the government. Would someone please tell them this is not effective politics? Evidence: the results of the last two general elections. Fine Gael and Labour are like two children on either end of a political see saw, constantly moving up and down but going nowhere.

As for these abstruse references to Cleopatra’s nose and the scattering of googled literary references politicians tend to litter their speeches with these days, presumably to try and make themselves sound well-read or intelligent or both – though thanks be to heaven they’ve let up on Humpty Dumpty and Alice in Wonderland for a while – it’s not clever and it just sounds contrived and trivial.

We’re not stupid, us ordinary folk out there. We know there is an international crisis and we also know that as a small open economy Ireland will take the brunt of it. Yes, the government have a lot to answer for and I for one have little sympathy with them. What matters now is how they respond to the difficulties we are in – I think that is what most people care about, especially those who have lost their jobs or who can’t get any jobs or who are facing huge hikes in energy and transport costs and their mortgages and are genuinely worried about putting bread on the table for the next couple of years.

I suspect that like most people I’d like to hear what alternatives ideas/policies might be purused to get us through the tough times ahead in some sort of reasonable shape, and some sort of constructive intelligent critique of existing government policies, rather than a pseudo intellectual treatise on Cleopatra’s nose.

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