Comments on: Frank Luntz is an idiot http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/ Coverage of Irish Politics, News and Current Affairs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:23:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Dan Sullivan http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51123 Dan Sullivan Sat, 26 May 2007 19:54:19 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51123 I have to say that RTe would be better served getting someone from the Irish online political community that has emerged over the last 3/4 years. I would available for a reasonable rate! More sensibly RTe could have looked for someone under 40 who wasn't a pol corr. After all the pol corrs got it as wrong as anyone else. So they weren't that much better (or to be fair much worse) than some of the folks online. I have to say that RTe would be better served getting someone from the Irish online political community that has emerged over the last 3/4 years.

I would available for a reasonable rate!

More sensibly RTe could have looked for someone under 40 who wasn’t a pol corr. After all the pol corrs got it as wrong as anyone else. So they weren’t that much better (or to be fair much worse) than some of the folks online.

]]> By: AdamMaguire.com - Blog » Archives » Blame being leveled at the media http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51096 AdamMaguire.com - Blog » Archives » Blame being leveled at the media Sat, 26 May 2007 16:14:23 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51096 [...] of the last minute swing that began to show itself in the final week of campaign and it is - as Braz points out in a comment here - partly because of the irrelevance of a FPTP poll question on a PR-STV [...] [...] of the last minute swing that began to show itself in the final week of campaign and it is – as Braz points out in a comment here – partly because of the irrelevance of a FPTP poll question on a PR-STV [...]

]]> By: braz http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51088 braz Sat, 26 May 2007 15:34:07 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51088 It is surprising that when Luntz on-air made the comment that he couldn't understand the Irish electoral system and that RTE didn't drop him then and there. Luntz is suffering from the pollsters predicament - you can't empirically measure the Irish PR-STV system and use a model to predict it a) from prior polls or b) from emerging count details from constituencies. This election has show one overriding fact, all the media relied too heavily on polling or focus group data and they got it wrong and badly wrong at that. It is surprising that when Luntz on-air made the comment that he couldn’t understand the Irish electoral system and that RTE didn’t drop him then and there.

Luntz is suffering from the pollsters predicament – you can’t empirically measure the Irish PR-STV system and use a model to predict it a) from prior polls or b) from emerging count details from constituencies.

This election has show one overriding fact, all the media relied too heavily on polling or focus group data and they got it wrong and badly wrong at that.

]]> By: Adam Maguire http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51073 Adam Maguire Sat, 26 May 2007 13:11:23 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51073 Jesus christ. Any thing I've seen or heard of him in this campaign has been embarrassing. Most of the other guests are either indifferent to the non-points he's making or quite clearly aggravated at his lack of knowledge. Terry Prone is hardly the most reliable voice in Irish politics but at least she knows what she's talking about and rightly dismissed him. Plenty of other guests seemed to be doing the same. Jesus christ.
Any thing I’ve seen or heard of him in this campaign has been embarrassing. Most of the other guests are either indifferent to the non-points he’s making or quite clearly aggravated at his lack of knowledge.
Terry Prone is hardly the most reliable voice in Irish politics but at least she knows what she’s talking about and rightly dismissed him. Plenty of other guests seemed to be doing the same.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51072 Oliver Sat, 26 May 2007 13:05:26 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51072 Hi Simon Got hit with the spam filter last nightquite a bit. It happens :) Hi Simon

Got hit with the spam filter last nightquite a bit. It happens :)

]]> By: Maman Poulet http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51071 Maman Poulet Sat, 26 May 2007 13:03:20 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51071 Adam - I have bad news for you - He is doing a post election focus group programme for RTE from what I heard at 3.30 am this morning. Adam – I have bad news for you – He is doing a post election focus group programme for RTE from what I heard at 3.30 am this morning.

]]> By: Simon http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51070 Simon Sat, 26 May 2007 12:55:47 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51070 sorry oliver for your comment got caught in spam filter. working on it at the moment. sorry oliver for your comment got caught in spam filter. working on it at the moment.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-51068 Oliver Sat, 26 May 2007 12:31:10 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/frank-luntz-is-an-idiot/#comment-51068 Politics is local, someone should have told Frank that. Politics is local, someone should have told Frank that.

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