Comments on: Fianna Fail out of the Traps on Government Formations, Fine Gael Talking to Sinn Fein? http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/ Coverage of Irish Politics, News and Current Affairs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:43:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: dick http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-119379 dick Fri, 29 May 2009 22:19:20 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-119379 Fianna Fail are a shower of fucking crooks. Your all wankers Fianna Fail are a shower of fucking crooks. Your all wankers

]]> By: eoghan http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-115621 eoghan Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:26:34 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-115621 if i woke up tomorrow and biffo was dead and lenihan handicapped in a wheel chair ide be a happy man they deserve to die fuckin wankers if i woke up tomorrow and biffo was dead and lenihan handicapped in a wheel chair ide be a happy man they deserve to die fuckin wankers

]]> By: Dermot http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51477 Dermot Thu, 31 May 2007 11:40:15 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51477 No worse than the left denouncing McDowell and those aweful PDS as "Right Wingers" and then turning around and implementing their policies. Who will ever forget Pat Rabittes recent conversion to tax cuts. Michael Mc Dowells greatest achievement was converting Pat Rabitte into a PD. No worse than the left denouncing McDowell and those aweful PDS as “Right Wingers” and then turning around and implementing their policies. Who will ever forget Pat Rabittes recent conversion to tax cuts. Michael Mc Dowells greatest achievement was converting Pat Rabitte into a PD.

]]> By: Larkin http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51471 Larkin Thu, 31 May 2007 08:38:00 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51471 Your points are well made Gordon. "Commies" is a bit derogatory, a bit like the word "shinners", so I take that back. Thankfully we won't have the likes of McDowell using the word "Left" like it's a dirty word. George W Bush used that tactic successfully against Kerry - a definite centrist - and it worked. But this isn't the US of A. I for one was shocked to see Joe Higgins ousted. Your points are well made Gordon. “Commies” is a bit derogatory, a bit like the word “shinners”, so I take that back.

Thankfully we won’t have the likes of McDowell using the word “Left” like it’s a dirty word. George W Bush used that tactic successfully against Kerry – a definite centrist – and it worked. But this isn’t the US of A.

I for one was shocked to see Joe Higgins ousted.

]]> By: Gordon Davies http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51427 Gordon Davies Wed, 30 May 2007 20:55:32 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51427 Dear Larkin, The PCF represented a third of the electorat in France - the urban working class. The Communists were an essential element in the Resistance movement against German occupation. de Gaulle was indignant that when he called for a general mobilisation against the occupier his initial support came from "a handful of Jews and Communists". Communist run municipalities have been a hot bed of social innovation for nearly a century. As a member of Labour in Ireland and an ex member of the (left-wing) Greens in France I recognise the important contribution of the PCF to the history of the left in France. Pity it went wrong. The problem with the left inb Ireland is that a moderate like Joe Higgins finds himself on the extreme left of Irish politics. Gordon Dear Larkin,

The PCF represented a third of the electorat in France – the urban working class. The Communists were an essential element in the Resistance movement against German occupation. de Gaulle was indignant that when he called for a general mobilisation against the occupier his initial support came from “a handful of Jews and Communists”. Communist run municipalities have been a hot bed of social innovation for nearly a century. As a member of Labour in Ireland and an ex member of the (left-wing) Greens in France I recognise the important contribution of the PCF to the history of the left in France. Pity it went wrong.

The problem with the left inb Ireland is that a moderate like Joe Higgins finds himself on the extreme left of Irish politics.

Gordon

]]> By: oldhack http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51414 oldhack Wed, 30 May 2007 16:47:35 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51414 Did Bertie really win the election? As the dust settles we realize that it wasn't a clearcut victory for his government. He was thwarted by the PD collapse, just as FG was thwarted by Labour stagnation. The tribunal of course makes government formation much more difficult. Did Bertie really win the election? As the dust settles we realize that it wasn’t a clearcut victory for his government. He was thwarted by the PD collapse, just as FG was thwarted by Labour stagnation. The tribunal of course makes government formation much more difficult.

]]> By: Larkin http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51408 Larkin Wed, 30 May 2007 15:21:27 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51408 Can't be worse than the commies in coalition in France. I didn't see the French rioting on the streets over that one. Can’t be worse than the commies in coalition in France. I didn’t see the French rioting on the streets over that one.

]]> By: Dermot http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51407 Dermot Wed, 30 May 2007 15:09:29 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51407 A GOVERNMENT RELIANT ON SEIN FEIN OR FINIAN MC GRATH. WE LIVE IN A BANANA REPUBLIC A GOVERNMENT RELIANT ON SEIN FEIN OR FINIAN MC GRATH. WE LIVE IN A BANANA REPUBLIC

]]> By: Larkin http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51403 Larkin Wed, 30 May 2007 14:18:19 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51403 I don't know if FG and SF is any worse than Bertie and like minded independents. By this I mean Cooper-Flynn and Lowry, whose past finances are equally as questionable as Bertie's. Plus there is a difference between a vote for taoiseach and inviting a party into government. One or two policy concessions on social housing, for example... Add SF to FG, Labour, Greens and you only need Finian McGrath and Trevor Sergeant. And Lowry will happily back Enda. I know it's unlikely, but it at least keeps the story warm. I don’t know if FG and SF is any worse than Bertie and like minded independents. By this I mean Cooper-Flynn and Lowry, whose past finances are equally as questionable as Bertie’s.
Plus there is a difference between a vote for taoiseach and inviting a party into government. One or two policy concessions on social housing, for example…

Add SF to FG, Labour, Greens and you only need Finian McGrath and Trevor Sergeant. And Lowry will happily back Enda.

I know it’s unlikely, but it at least keeps the story warm.

]]> By: Simon http://www.irishelection.com/2007/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/comment-page-1/#comment-51402 Simon Wed, 30 May 2007 14:02:38 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/05/fianna-fail-out-of-the-traps-on-government-formations-talking-to-finian-mcgrath/#comment-51402 Blueshirts and shinner. now there was a bet Blueshirts and shinner. now there was a bet

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