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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; What have you ever done for a living?</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2007/03/did-any-of-you-lot-ever-have-to-make-something-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-123970</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; What have you ever done for a living?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and the stimulation of economic activity.” I reckoned I should sit down and do an update of a post from almost 3 years ago. But then I remembered that I had done this already when Batt O&#8217;Keeffe was saying that we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and the stimulation of economic activity.” I reckoned I should sit down and do an update of a post from almost 3 years ago. But then I remembered that I had done this already when Batt O&#8217;Keeffe was saying that we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More people from business needed in the Dail? &#124; Heard Any</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2007/03/did-any-of-you-lot-ever-have-to-make-something-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-88906</link>
		<dc:creator>More people from business needed in the Dail? &#124; Heard Any</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in March of 2007 I queried the professional backgrounds of the then FF/PD cabinet with respect to their experience of the realities of making things and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in March of 2007 I queried the professional backgrounds of the then FF/PD cabinet with respect to their experience of the realities of making things and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Election &#187; More people from business needed in the Dail?</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2007/03/did-any-of-you-lot-ever-have-to-make-something-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-88358</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Election &#187; More people from business needed in the Dail?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in March of 2007 I queried the professional backgrounds of the then FF/PD cabinet with respect to their experience of the realities of making things and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in March of 2007 I queried the professional backgrounds of the then FF/PD cabinet with respect to their experience of the realities of making things and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I asked in a pointed rather than critical way. Having worked in software I never excluded making software which is after all only relatively intangible. And I mentioned running a business in the context of the plumbers and mechanics that Pidge had referred to as lacking people skills which I don&#039;t think they would. Services are not something you make, no one who has worked in manufacturing or a production environment in any place that makes something in whatever capacity would regard services as &quot;making something&quot;

And J O&#039;D, DA and BC are not barristers, they&#039;re just common or garden town solicitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I asked in a pointed rather than critical way. Having worked in software I never excluded making software which is after all only relatively intangible. And I mentioned running a business in the context of the plumbers and mechanics that Pidge had referred to as lacking people skills which I don&#8217;t think they would. Services are not something you make, no one who has worked in manufacturing or a production environment in any place that makes something in whatever capacity would regard services as &#8220;making something&#8221;</p>
<p>And J O&#8217;D, DA and BC are not barristers, they&#8217;re just common or garden town solicitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Fool on a Stool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fool on a Stool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

After positng my earlier comment, a doubt entered my mind as to whether it was Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil which depicted the other as rogue plumbers and cowboy mechanics in their 2002 election broadcasts. Whichever it was, we know how the electorate voted.

Anyway Dan, you began by asking in a critical manner if any of the 2002- cabinet ever had to &#039;make something for a living&#039;. You then acknowledged that three of them did indeed know how to &#039;make or produce something&#039;. To your own credit you later expanded your terms of reference to include intangible product, but seem to exclude legal, educational, financial and management services. You now say that what it&#039;s really all about is running a business, but don&#039;t appear to recognize that this is what most barristers and &#039;local solicitor(s)&#039; do in fact do.

Correct me if I&#039;m wrong but I thought John O&#039;Donoghue, Dermot Ahern and Brian Cowen were all barristers, rather than solicitors.

That will have to be my final contribution to this particular thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>After positng my earlier comment, a doubt entered my mind as to whether it was Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil which depicted the other as rogue plumbers and cowboy mechanics in their 2002 election broadcasts. Whichever it was, we know how the electorate voted.</p>
<p>Anyway Dan, you began by asking in a critical manner if any of the 2002- cabinet ever had to &#8216;make something for a living&#8217;. You then acknowledged that three of them did indeed know how to &#8216;make or produce something&#8217;. To your own credit you later expanded your terms of reference to include intangible product, but seem to exclude legal, educational, financial and management services. You now say that what it&#8217;s really all about is running a business, but don&#8217;t appear to recognize that this is what most barristers and &#8216;local solicitor(s)&#8217; do in fact do.</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but I thought John O&#8217;Donoghue, Dermot Ahern and Brian Cowen were all barristers, rather than solicitors.</p>
<p>That will have to be my final contribution to this particular thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall it don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall it don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Fool on a Stool</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2007/03/did-any-of-you-lot-ever-have-to-make-something-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-24806</link>
		<dc:creator>Fool on a Stool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t you remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t you remember?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what context was that said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what context was that said?</p>
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		<title>By: Fool on a Stool</title>
		<link>http://www.irishelection.com/2007/03/did-any-of-you-lot-ever-have-to-make-something-for-a-living/comment-page-1/#comment-24740</link>
		<dc:creator>Fool on a Stool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

&lt;i&gt;And a good plumber would know what it is to run a business as the best plumbers are self employed.&lt;/i&gt;

Is that why Fine Gael&#039;s PPBs in 2002 likened the FF/PD coalition to  plumbers and car mechanics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p><i>And a good plumber would know what it is to run a business as the best plumbers are self employed.</i></p>
<p>Is that why Fine Gael&#8217;s PPBs in 2002 likened the FF/PD coalition to  plumbers and car mechanics.</p>
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		<title>By: Fool on a Stool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fool on a Stool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

The sentence above should read 

Sadly, Lemass had found that the indigenous &lt;b&gt;business&lt;/b&gt; class failed to take the opportunity offered by protection to improve their productivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>The sentence above should read </p>
<p>Sadly, Lemass had found that the indigenous <b>business</b> class failed to take the opportunity offered by protection to improve their productivity.</p>
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