Comments on: FG Call for Random Drug Testing in Schools http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/ Coverage of Irish Politics, News and Current Affairs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:43:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Seán http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12830 Seán Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:30:36 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12830 hmm. this wont do any good, it will just treat people as criminals in the public eye. they can still get drugs at any street corner, trust me. definately wont get my vote, worst idea ever. hmm. this wont do any good, it will just treat people as criminals in the public eye. they can still get drugs at any street corner, trust me.
definately wont get my vote, worst idea ever.

]]> By: Lets test Enda Kenny for Drugs at Irish Election http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12418 Lets test Enda Kenny for Drugs at Irish Election Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:21:45 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12418 [...] This latest proposal from Fine Gael is plain crazy. In an interview with RTE he said it was applied in the US and UK. So lets see if it actually does work. The largest survey to date on the Issue (which I could find in 5 minutes on Google) was taken by the University of Michigan in 2004 that tracked 94,000 students in secondary school. Their conclusion. [...] [...] This latest proposal from Fine Gael is plain crazy. In an interview with RTE he said it was applied in the US and UK. So lets see if it actually does work. The largest survey to date on the Issue (which I could find in 5 minutes on Google) was taken by the University of Michigan in 2004 that tracked 94,000 students in secondary school. Their conclusion. [...]

]]> By: mick http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12404 mick Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:57:08 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12404 As for the rich seam of policy everything up to now had turned out to be fools gold after you scratch the surface. Kenny isn't leading the party to a serious set of policies. He has us spinning stories that grab the public attention for the length of time it takes to scan page 7 of the Irish Times. There hasn't been one country where boot camps worked. There hasn't been one country that gives free laptops to every child and just to remain consistent the latest policy is a drug control policy that has failed everywhere it has been attempted. As for the rich seam of policy everything up to now had turned out to be fools gold after you scratch the surface. Kenny isn’t leading the party to a serious set of policies. He has us spinning stories that grab the public attention for the length of time it takes to scan page 7 of the Irish Times. There hasn’t been one country where boot camps worked. There hasn’t been one country that gives free laptops to every child and just to remain consistent the latest policy is a drug control policy that has failed everywhere it has been attempted.

]]> By: Cian http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12403 Cian Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:39:15 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12403 touche simon though I reckon that the dual approach however is the best way of dealing with it. Its preventative and punitive which is the only way to deal with issues like this. Dan you exactly right which is why this may well be a rich seam of policy for FG touche simon though I reckon that the dual approach however is the best way of dealing with it. Its preventative and punitive which is the only way to deal with issues like this.

Dan you exactly right which is why this may well be a rich seam of policy for FG

]]> By: Dan Sullivan http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12387 Dan Sullivan Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:57:16 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12387 My God Mick, you've completely seen through us! Oddly enough I passed a pair of lads on the street in secondary school uniforms on Monday afternoon about 4pm, and one asked the other, 'are you going drinking tonight?', and the other lad said 'nah'. On a Monday in January. My God Mick, you’ve completely seen through us!

Oddly enough I passed a pair of lads on the street in secondary school uniforms on Monday afternoon about 4pm, and one asked the other, ‘are you going drinking tonight?’, and the other lad said ‘nah’. On a Monday in January.

]]> By: mick http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12383 mick Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:35:40 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12383 Then what? If a 14 year old tests positive what will happen? Give him a free laptop to sell to buy more drugs? Then what? If a 14 year old tests positive what will happen? Give him a free laptop to sell to buy more drugs?

]]> By: Simon http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12380 Simon Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:19:26 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12380 Well drugs is not all about deprivation. Kids in well off schools take drugs as well. As for drug testing kids. Maybe we should give them a propor education in drugs first Well drugs is not all about deprivation. Kids in well off schools take drugs as well. As for drug testing kids. Maybe we should give them a propor education in drugs first

]]> By: Cian http://www.irishelection.com/2007/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-12377 Cian Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:36:24 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/02/fg-call-for-random-drug-testing-in-schools/#comment-12377 Two thoughts of my own though, 1) in deprived areas where kids are on drugs, attendance at school is not exactly mandatory and knowing that testing is taking place in school could well just finish off attendance altogether. 2)Clearly dealing with drug taking is a two sided effort and any attempt to institute a policy of random testing has to take place in a context of tackling deprivation among young people which feeds in to drug abuse. Two thoughts of my own though,
1) in deprived areas where kids are on drugs, attendance at school is not exactly mandatory and knowing that testing is taking place in school could well just finish off attendance altogether.

2)Clearly dealing with drug taking is a two sided effort and any attempt to institute a policy of random testing has to take place in a context of tackling deprivation among young people which feeds in to drug abuse.

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