Comments on: Winning and Losing the Election http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/ Coverage of Irish Politics, News and Current Affairs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:43:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Damien Mulley » Blog Archive » Go Adam Douglas! http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-104048 Damien Mulley » Blog Archive » Go Adam Douglas! Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:18:02 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-104048 [...] the answers to Fergal’s post? No page yet on the Green Party site for him but at least he can use the Internet! Digg it! | Reddit | Del.icio.us | Stumble Upon | [...] [...] the answers to Fergal’s post? No page yet on the Green Party site for him but at least he can use the Internet! Digg it! | Reddit | Del.icio.us | Stumble Upon | [...]

]]> By: Dublin Central Watcher http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-11725 Dublin Central Watcher Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:22:25 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-11725 I can't get my head around around the idea that SF will gain one form Labour in Dublin Central. Joe Costello is doing mighty work in the constituency, and even though he's running out of steam, and has no real solid base within Cabra or the North East Inner City, you'd have to imagine that he'll get in on transfers from the FG candidate (who seems to have been bought in Hector Gray's) Paschal Donahue. Sinn Fein will take a seat alright, but it won't be Joe Costello's this year. That's for next time. I can’t get my head around around the idea that SF will gain one form Labour in Dublin Central.

Joe Costello is doing mighty work in the constituency, and even though he’s running out of steam, and has no real solid base within Cabra or the North East Inner City, you’d have to imagine that he’ll get in on transfers from the FG candidate (who seems to have been bought in Hector Gray’s) Paschal Donahue.

Sinn Fein will take a seat alright, but it won’t be Joe Costello’s this year. That’s for next time.

]]> By: Al Payne http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-9280 Al Payne Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:45:49 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-9280 They got the Cavan/Monaghan count wrong. FF will gain a seat here with the Ceann Comhairle automatic. Who will the loser be? Paudge Connolly will get a big vote on account of his stance for the hospital and the FG Seymour Crawford has not impressed - so out he goes. Brendan Smith will get the Cavan vote and SF Caoimhghin O'Caolain will have no difficulty holding his seat. They got the Cavan/Monaghan count wrong. FF will gain a seat here with the Ceann Comhairle automatic. Who will the loser be? Paudge Connolly will get a big vote on account of his stance for the hospital and the FG Seymour Crawford has not impressed – so out he goes. Brendan Smith will get the Cavan vote and SF Caoimhghin O’Caolain will have no difficulty holding his seat.

]]> By: Adam Douglas http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8912 Adam Douglas Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:26:29 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8912 It is of course a mistake to suggest that the Socialists would be upping two seats by winning two when they already have Deputy Higgins as a sitting T.D. The realistic end will be a Labour Party so desperate for power that they'll once again settle for Fianna Fail, even though they are at polar opposites to them in policy terms. Meanwhile any suggestion that the Greens could ever work with Fianna Fail is utter nonsense. It is of course a mistake to suggest that the Socialists would be upping two seats by winning two when they already have Deputy Higgins as a sitting T.D. The realistic end will be a Labour Party so desperate for power that they’ll once again settle for Fianna Fail, even though they are at polar opposites to them in policy terms. Meanwhile any suggestion that the Greens could ever work with Fianna Fail is utter nonsense.

]]> By: Cian http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8728 Cian Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:51:44 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8728 I think the point is that the logic of mullingar is to focus on taking seats from FF. The pact doesnt aid that. The worry for me is that it is not just natural competition but the accord ends up cannibalising one party since voters can vote fg or labour for the same outcome. I think the point is that the logic of mullingar is to focus on taking seats from FF. The pact doesnt aid that. The worry for me is that it is not just natural competition but the accord ends up cannibalising one party since voters can vote fg or labour for the same outcome.

]]> By: Keith http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8727 Keith Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:40:45 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8727 There would be seats switching between Labour & FG regardless of the pact or not. I don't know where people get this idea that Labour (or FG) will lose seats to FG just because of the Mullingar Accord. There would be seats switching between Labour & FG regardless of the pact or not. I don’t know where people get this idea that Labour (or FG) will lose seats to FG just because of the Mullingar Accord.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8181 Stephen Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:59:31 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8181 Cian, i dont see lab going in with FF and if they do, it wont last long id say. anyway FF wont need that many seats so they settle for the a combination of small party (PD's or SF) and independents like in 1997! As for FF/Green i dont see i appening Simon as FF is too tied to corporations etc and cant turn green easily! Cian, i dont see lab going in with FF and if they do, it wont last long id say. anyway FF wont need that many seats so they settle for the a combination of small party (PD’s or SF) and independents like in 1997!

As for FF/Green i dont see i appening Simon as FF is too tied to corporations etc and cant turn green easily!

]]> By: Simon http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8179 Simon Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:42:25 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8179 I think people are missing the FF/Green option. 83 seats by that poll. Only needs one indo to go over the top I think people are missing the FF/Green option. 83 seats by that poll. Only needs one indo to go over the top

]]> By: Cian http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8141 Cian Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:03:10 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8141 Unless berties overtures to labour pay dividends in the next few months I reckon you are right stephen. Though it is terribly shambolic for labour to lose overall mainly thanks to the cannibalising effect of the pact. FG and Lab are taking seats off each other primarily. looking at local level is the only way to predict the election. national polls are a very blunt instrument. I also have reservations about hte tribs call in Kerry North. The FF ticket is still up in the air and i dont think Martin Ferris is on half as shaky a ground as people would like to think. Its all down to transfer patterns here, though FF may tighten the ship in that department. Unless berties overtures to labour pay dividends in the next few months I reckon you are right stephen. Though it is terribly shambolic for labour to lose overall mainly thanks to the cannibalising effect of the pact. FG and Lab are taking seats off each other primarily.

looking at local level is the only way to predict the election. national polls are a very blunt instrument. I also have reservations about hte tribs call in Kerry North. The FF ticket is still up in the air and i dont think Martin Ferris is on half as shaky a ground as people would like to think. Its all down to transfer patterns here, though FF may tighten the ship in that department.

]]> By: P O'Neill http://www.irishelection.com/2006/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-8129 P O'Neill Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:18:00 +0000 http://www.irishelection.com/12/winning-and-losing-the-election/#comment-8129 The numbers look plausible and it's brave of them to go down to consituency level to make predictions but that's where the real fun is. I think FF are in worse shape in Dublin than their tally suggests. Of local interest, the Graham Geraghty camp in Meath West is convinced that they can take Johnny Brady's (FF) seat and not cannibalise their own, but that may just be the sales pitch. The numbers look plausible and it’s brave of them to go down to consituency level to make predictions but that’s where the real fun is. I think FF are in worse shape in Dublin than their tally suggests. Of local interest, the Graham Geraghty camp in Meath West is convinced that they can take Johnny Brady’s (FF) seat and not cannibalise their own, but that may just be the sales pitch.

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