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Fine Gael breaking promises before they are even in power
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There is part of the Fine Gael website called Broken Promises, where they keep track of what the government have said they would do and have not done. How ironic then that they are breaking promises without even being in government yet. In his Ard Feis speech, Enda Kenny said:
I will end the scandal of the A&Es. Starting with these practical solutions. Get the drunks out of A&E. Put the weekend warriors into drunk tanks. Fine them. Hit them where it hurts, in their pockets.
But now, a few months on, they have given up on that idea and will no longer be fining them, nor will they be getting the drunks out of A&E, only putting them in another part of A&E. Great isn’t it. They say they will do something and then back out. You know what that is don’t you?
A broken promise.
I wonder will he also break his promises to “end the scandal in A&E?”
You can download the policy here. I will have a look at it later.
Wishful thinking!
‘Wet Rooms’ could be set up in central locations in Dublin and other cities and not just in A&E – where did you get that idea from?
And this document has just two sentences on dealing with drunks in A&E – hardly enough content to fully describe all aspects of FG/Labour strategy. I have no reason to believe that the idea of hitting them “in their pockets” has disappeared.
Read the policy and see what I mean:
‘Wet rooms’ where those found to be simply drunk, following a medical assessment, can
sleep it off under supervision. These rooms would have security staff and be medically
supervised.
• Increased security in A&Es, especially at the weekend, targeted at keeping out drunken
hangers-on who cause disruption and mayhem. Increased training for staff in the
management of aggressive behaviour so common in A&Es.
Simon, you’re referring to the content of this document as representing a broken promise and then talk about how you will read it later. Any chance you might read the content rather than basing your opinion on someone elses headline.
I’ve heard medical people in hospitals say that sometimes people look drunk but they are not -they could be suffering from one of several different serious conditions so have to be subjected to all manner of tests
we shouldnt trivialise these patients at all
once someone is delivered or taken to hospital their condition has to be sussed out properly ..not judged by passers by
Dan I am basing the Change in policy on an interview that Liz McManus gave on rte radio drive time show where she said that both the drunk tanks and the fining had been dropped.
Simon
Oct 10th, 2006 at 9:04 am
“Dan I am basing the Change in policy on an interview that Liz McManus gave on rte radio drive time show where she said that both the drunk tanks and the fining had been dropped. ”
Simon unless I am mistaken Liz McManus is a member of the Labour Party and is in fact one of their TDs
So Simon I take that it is ok to refer to comments from members of FF when talking about future PD policy so?
Dan when they say that they have agreed a policy platform and are going to the electorate as a coalition rather then 2 seperate parties. Then Yes.
This is just re-heated government PR, just like the story above it about Ethics. What a waste of time. If I want to read FF propaganda, I’ll go to their own website. At least it’s written by someone who knows how to use punctuation and knows the difference between “quiet” and “quite”. And bloggers want to be taken seriously as writers!
Nice to see the grammer police are still in town. It never gets old you know.
I was referring primarily to the fact that your post is propaganda, but if you want to focus on the petty side: I complained about spelling, not grammar. Oh, you spelled “grammar” incorrectly too. Do the Irish Times complain about “grammer” police? Get it right or don’t do it at all. This isn’t primary school. You get no marks just for trying.
Neither is this the Irish Times. As for my post being propaganda. In what way is it? He said I will fine drunks. Now he is not. He has not said he was wrong, he did not say he changed his mind, he has simply forgotten about it. How is that not a broken Promise?
In Semper Idem post he talks about Fine Gael and Labour being seperate parties thus it makes a differance. Yet the website Broken promises includes policies from specific party manifestos. How is it in any way different? Also all the times I have critised Government parties. For instance
http://www.irishelection.com/08/mcdowell-you-used-to-be-cool/
http://www.irishelection.com/07/ffpd-abuse-of-power/
and posted the answers to the Fianna Fail party members prize draw ( I think there is still time to enter) http://www.irishelection.com/09/competion-time-again/
How come I wasn’t told that that was FF propaganda?
@deeplysaddened:
Picking on somebody’s spelling and/or grammar in the comments rather than the substance of the piece you’re meant to be commenting on isn’t really fair. Just because somebody needs a subeditor, that doesn’t imply that they can’t write. Ask somebody who subedits professionally: a good number of professional journalists out there, in spite of (and partly because of) spell checkers, grammar checkers, &c., can neither spell nor form grammatically correct sentences. And don’t get me started on punctuation.
Anyway, Simon’s more of a PD than a FFer.
I’m pretty sure they’re going to the electorate as two parties that have an agreed platform in places. And how are having wet rooms not getting drunk people out of A&E? You might have thought that Enda was proposing wet tanks that local prisons or lockups have in the US, but that was never suggested by FG.
And I take it that you accept that all the issues raised on the Broken Promises post are valid so. The PDs recycle their election promises so much they’re practically the Greens.
And I take it that you accept that all the issues raised on the Broken Promises post are valid so. The PDs recycle their election promises so much they’re practically the Greens.
Where did I ever say that the broken promises site is wrong? Dan you mistake me as someone who cares alot for the PD’s. I am mainly right wing and liberal and thus the nearest party to my beliefs are the PD’s. But when they deviate from my beliefs I critise them. As for recycling policies I fully agree with you on that. I am just saying that Fine Gael are doing that 2.
I’m pretty sure they’re going to the electorate as two parties that have an agreed platform in places. Fianna Fail and the PD’s went to the electorate as 2 parties and the Broken promises site picks up on a Fianna Fail manifesto policy. So under that defination. The above FG policy is fair game to be called a broken promise.
The “wet tanks” are from my reading drunks only parts of A&E. I.E. seperating them from the rest of people. That is alot different “Get them out” which suggests chucking them out the door at least that is what the way it was taken up by the general populice anyway. As for the fining that seems to have totally gone.
Chunking them out the door was never suggested by FG. And I’m not sure that the billing of people for misuse of public health facilities it gone either.
that should read ‘And I’m not sure that the billing of people for misuse of public health facilities is gone either.’