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Using the Army to fight Gangland Crime

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Fine Gael’s Charlie Flanagan raised the idea of using the Army to fight gangland crime. This is a bit loopy. Many countries have higher crime rates indeed most have higher rates and do not resort to putting the Army on the streets. Let alone the whole argument that this is not what they army is there for. Thing is it is the ultimate tough on crime talk sounds good to the voters FG are after.

7 Responses to “Using the Army to fight Gangland Crime”

  1. # Comment by Keith Oct 9th, 2007 17:10

    In fairness to FG, FF have jumped on the bandwagon with this - Brian Lenihan is off to suggest it to the Garda Commissioner.

    Personally, I think it’s a stupid idea, but at least someone’s putting forward some ideas, rather than just saying how terrible the situation is.

  2. # Comment by Cian Oct 9th, 2007 23:10

    and considering the role of army is external hence its difference from gardai

  3. # Comment by Niall Oct 11th, 2007 13:10

    OK, did Chuck Norris season just end at the Dail cinema? Bleedin’ gobshites.

    I keep wondering how Fianna Fail get back into power after so many scandals and broken promises, but when you look at the alternative…

  4. # Comment by sos Oct 12th, 2007 09:10

    The Army could be used to drive the various Mercedes-Benz motor cars, that we pay for, and free the Gardai drivers (some on massive overtime as Ministers visit night clubs and similar) to get out and patrol the streets, on foot.

    They might also be used to accompany security vans, an area where there is constant duplication of resources. And the Banks etc. should pay for the service.

  5. # Comment by simon Oct 12th, 2007 13:10

    Contrary to belief police on patrol have little impact on crime. I posted about it a few months back.
    http://www.policefoundation.org/docs/newark.html

  6. # Comment by sos Oct 15th, 2007 12:10

    Yes, I’m afraid that is too obviously true.

    So, what is the solution? If the police cannot stop the explosion of gun crime, who can?

    The guns are more than likely sourced from the arsenals of the IRA/Sinn Fein.

    It would be hard to believe that the IRA would surrender all of the millions of pounds of stolen money that they used to acquire their arsenal of sophisticated weaponry from Qaddafi & rogue arms dealers.

    The mortars & heavy ordnance, perhaps yes, were shown to de Chastellane & his team; but the AK 47s and the Glock pistols and other handguns that are being used daily in the gangland drug wars?

    In the meantime, the army might earn its peacetime wages and do some domestic work.

    Drills and exercises may keep squaddies from getting bored, but a small alteration in duties would release a lot of overpaid police, doing little more than baby-sitting for overpaid, spoiled TDs.

  7. # Comment by John Oct 15th, 2007 22:10

    and considering the role of army is external hence its difference from gardai

    Except for their role as an adjunct to the civil power.

    While some may argue that police patrol make little difference, for those law-abiding citizens who dominate areas like Moyross and Southill - they mean a lot. Knowing that the Gardaí are out and about in an area is very reasurring to people under serve stress from what could happen to themselves and their loved ones. And if the Gardaí are not in a position to adequately police the area and provide people with security, then having the PDF in a supporting role to the Gardaí makes sense.

    It is hardly a novel or unique idea - how many times have the PDF supported armed Garda checkpoints, or provided support to cash deliveries?

    BTW, I am delighted to know that a research project in Newark can be taken to having universal application.

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