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Irish Times Lisbon Poll: Support for a No Vote Edges Ahead
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There is a poll in tomorrow’s Irish Times on Lisbon: Yes 30% No 35% Undecided/wont vote: 35%
Get the spin and recrimination ready if it does go down:
A clear majority of Fine Gael voters are now against the Treaty by 40 per cent to 30 per cent, while among Labour voters there has been a massive turnaround with the No side almost doubling its support to 47 per cent with 30 per cent of party supporters in favour.
Maybe it wasn’t just the company I am keeping ;) Hat-tip: Future Taoiseach in the comments,
The French and Dutch people said no to this and the elites need to respect that. The Irish people clearly do.
must look at some of the earlier posts that analysed the breakdown of undecideds to see how close they were. are we looking at the same split being continued or is it starting to acclerate. hilarious stuff on politics.ie with some folks claiming this is the best thing that could ever happen to the yes campaign.
It would appear that the main No campaigners are the EU itself.
Call for EU to build its own army http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7439104.stm
The Irish economy desperately needs an interest rate cut but the ECB announces an interest rate rise to help fight inflation in Germany
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0605/housing.html
And that’s just yesterday. Well either they actually want us to vote no or we are so unimportant to them that they haven’t realised that there is a referendum going on.
Maybe your company is mainly Labour people they seem to be more against it then everage.
Were it not for the fact that the party officially endorses the Treaty, an even greater majority of Fine Gael voters would be against. The substance of the text doesn’t resonate with them. Nor, it would seem, with some of the party leaders who’s ‘Vote Yes’ campaigning has only been half hearted.
I can’t understand FG’s opposition given that John Bruton was so involved in the constitution and is now an EU ambassador.
Any non-affiliated people thinking of voting no should be made read the section of the Spoofer’s Guide to Lisbon about who’s on the No side - specifically what a nice bunch they are and how they’ve been right before.
Idiots vote no.
garry, interesting point about the half hearted campaigning. if this treaty does go down in flames then some focus will be placed on the decision of govt. figures including an Taoiseach to state publicly that they did not read the actual document. That was so half hearted as to almost amount to self inflicted sabotage.
I think this poll rather than energising the yes side will normalise the no vote and make it a socially acceptable position among ordinary decent people rather than a position for loo lahs. Will be interesting to see will Siptu come out for a straight no over the next few days if the govt. doesn’t jump. I think they will probably hang fire now.
Jer, I agree with you 100%.
I actually thought - no joking here - that the more interesting poll was the Ray D’Arcy phone-in yesterday which was (a non scientific, I’ll grant) 70% no. I really think that D’Arcy is the Irish equivalent of Preoria, Illinois - the bell weather for the middle ground. If his demographic feel comfortable voting no, then that’s the direction we’re headed.
I’m a no voter. I’m not anti-Europe, I just don’t think the Lisbon proposal for restructuring is a good one. I’d be more in favour of a system where we had an upper house of the European Parliament with two delegates per member state and Commissioners appointed, not on the basis of where they’re from, but on the basis of their expertise. Wouldn’t solve the whole thing, but it would be step in the rigth direction.
Garry, we are in danger of having a mutual back slapping contest here
but i also agree 100% with you. I am pro-european and for closer cooperation but this treaty cant be the way forward. I am amazed at the 1% population argument bandied about by some people. Who gives a sh!t (excusz moi) if it were .25%. You dont have to be spineless to be part of Europe. no point in being diffident and aplogising the whole time for existing.
Jer, lets face it, we’re on-line dating. I think we should save up and buy a house.
Garry, sounds like a plan or we could build if we could ever get planning permission.
You know me so well…
I can just see it now, the YES side gets a shift on and levels things up in the final week and then the whole thing is lost because of significantly more No votes than the national average in the Mid-West because the likes of Kevin Sheehan (FF and the Chair Limerick County council) called for people to vote No is the Shannon routes were lost.
Will Cowen just expel him from the party or the country?
“if the Shannon routes were lost”
I think it’s a stupid reason to vote No but that’s what he told people.